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Extremely Powerful Hardware Says Dev
http://www.nintendoforums.com/threads/nintendo-nx-will-have-incredibly-powerful-hardware.1963/

Interesting news, but how the hell could a Nintendo console be more powerful than a Skylake CPU + top of the line GPU ?

What it possibly means :


1) Guy who made that statement has no clue. Probably thinks an i3 + 750 Ti is a top of the line computer. No way the NX is faster than a real top of the line PC. (6700K + 980 Ti)

2) Devkits are much stronger than the final product. Happened with the PS4 aswell.

3) Nintendo marketing propaganda. Starting to spread rumors. Unlikely, but a possibility

4) Fake news to generate clicks.

5) New Nintendo console comes out like November 2016 and is only slightly faster than the PS4 (PS4 is 3 years old come Nov. 2016).


We just need to look at the hype machine and expecations in general. When was the last time we truly got something that was better than our expectations? I remember when I expected the GTX 680 to be atleast 50% better than the GTX 580. I remember when I expected Intel CPUs to be actually much better than Sandy Bridge. I remember when I expected Watch Dogs to be a great game.

If news like that continue then people expect the Nintendo NX to be twice as powerful as a PS4, with a mobile part inclunded for 299-399$.

Deep down we all know how it will turn out. Underpowered hardware (around Xbox One levels maybe?) with a weird controller, family/friend features noone needs, motion detection, a weird connection probably between the mobile part and the home console where you can play while you are travelling with your friends/family who are sitting at home (like companion apps or something).


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I could see some nice power out of the NX if it includes a Zen core with GCN 2.0 together in an APU package all coupled with HBM at 14/16 nm. The timing is right on all of these things, only 2 questions remain. How much would a chip like that cost in late '16 and how powerful would it be? Assuming its not super cheep it could easily beat out the PS4.
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My biggest worry is that the cost of the portable handheld controller will eat into cost of manufacturing, forcing njntendo to go with weak hardware.

The handheld will have to have a display of it's own as well as its in SOC. How much will all that cost?

Zen SOC with HBM sounds great, but I doubt it. The system needs to match the price of current gen to remain competitive ($350-400).

The hardware will be better but only slightly. Nintendo has a chance to learn from PS4 and Xbox One designs, and build something new.

Probably using GDDR5 with a slighty more powerful CPU and a GPU at the level of PS4.
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Please no more controller gimmicks. Bring out a a standard controller and a hardware beast. Would love to see an Legend of Zelda built from Unreal Engine.

They have a standard controller. It works pretty darn well.
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Yeah I have to agree with zealord. There is no way we are gonna see a level of power as a GTX 680. They most likely mean its a bit more powerful then a PS4. But the final product might be in-between Xbox One and PS4. Hopefully its better then a PS4 and plays all games at 1080p 60fps. Nintendo wont sell a console at a loss like how Sony did with the PS3. But who knows. Just hope i don't get any big or weird controllers. A updated controller like the Gamecube controller will do well. Something like this or better.


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At any rate, this is cool, but I'm still waiting for TLoZ and Metroid on my U. Come on N!

Same here. I will always own a Nintendo console and I too am patiently waiting for Zelda, Metroid, StarFox and whatever. That's really where I think the U fell down. Forget 3rd party; where are the 1st Party titles???

I buy Nintendo consoles knowing that I will probably be buying only Nintendo titles for it. I'm at peace with it.
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My biggest worry is that the cost of the portable handheld controller will eat into cost of manufacturing, forcing njntendo to go with weak hardware.

The handheld will have to have a display of it's own as well as its in SOC. How much will all that cost?
If they want to be smart probably should offer the option of the console with a standard controller or with the handheld. Instead of making the handheld mandatory to play the console.

But yeah, Nintendo needs to try to line up the release with some of their big heavy hitter IPs to push the console sales.
     
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Nintendo needs to stop with the BS controllers....Just make a normal console with a "standard" controller. This way you can invest that $ into better specs.

Better specs > Wiimote / WiiUcontrollerthingy
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Yeah I have to agree with zealord. There is no way we are gonna see a level of power as a GTX 680. They most likely mean its a bit more powerful then a PS4. But the final product might be in-between Xbox One and PS4. Hopefully its better then a PS4 and plays all games at 1080p 60fps. Nintendo wont sell a console at a loss like how Sony did with the PS3. But who knows. Just hope i don't get any big or weird controllers. A updated controller like the Gamecube controller will do well. Something like this or better.



What is wrong with the WiiU Pro Controller?

Though would like to see them swap the right analog stick with the ABXY buttons.


Honestly they should really just try and copy the xbox one controller as much as they can. Nothing wrong with mirroring the best controller in the world. Size wise it is perfect. Being able to replace the battery means not having to crack it open in the future. Analog sticks have the best top grip any controller has ever seen. Triggers work great.

Nintendo would be crazy not to mirror it. Rather than do something crazy like a tablet controller no one really wants to use.


I could really care less about hardware though. As long as it can play the same games the xbox one and ps4 can play. I have both the PS4 and XB1, and spend way more time playing the XB1. Even got destiny for the XB1, as the graphics pretty much look the same on both platforms. While the Xbox Controller and XB Live is just so much nicer to use. Not to mention the better games. Really my PS4 is collecting dust, but Uncharted will change that.


I just feel Nintendo has just been too lackluster lately. Really want to play the upcoming Zelda U, but can't justify spending money on a console for a couple of games. I don't have kids, and my friends would rather watch football, drink, and have fun. Not sit at the couch playing Mario party or super smash bros. So kinda kills those games for me.
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@DzillaXx your right nothing wrong with the Pro Controller apart from the right analog stick and buttons being switched around. I recently have been playing my Wii U more then my PS4. Hopefully that will change once The Last Guardian, Persona 5, Rime, Uncharted 4, Hellblade and other PS4 exclusives comes out. Have not got a XB1 yet will probably get one down the road for Halo 5 tho.

I don't think the NX will be a hybrid since Nintendo CEO Satoru Iwata himself said its not a hybrid. its like how Apple iOS and Android is. Like how they have the same game on ipad and iphone easy to port over. But who knows what they are planing. It might be something like this



Hopefully its nothing like that.
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