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I see people claiming this and every time i have to scratch my head. A smart device and a handheld are 2 completely different things for different needs. A smart device simply won't ever produce decent games for the "core gamer" till you got a decent control scheme. Sure you can play silly nonsense like stuff on the IOS or android store but actual core games? It is just not build for it. Nobody in their right mind would buy a smart device as a gaming device.

I wasn't arguing about which device is superior for core gaming purposes. I own both 3DS and Vita and they are simply better devices for core gaming and there aren't much argument against it. But the fact that 3DS only sold 50m n Vita failed to even crack 10m worldwide while DS sold 150m n PSP sold more than 80m means iOS and Android devices are taking casual gamers away from dedicated handheld.
Core gamers will stay on those consoles no matter what, but it would be hard to stay in the market unless they find a way to attract those casual gamers.
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This guy makes a good point. Plus its funny.


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Hmm... I was sure when the XBOX 360 came out nVidia made a press release exposing the capabilities.

But yep, you're right, it released a year later.

Yup, the 360 has a GPU that's kinda a hybrid R580 and R600 as R600 wasn't finished at the time and was actually faster than any single GPU setup until the 8800GTX/GTS came out and doubled PC performance overnight. thumb.gif
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now your previous logic fits handhelds. Nintendo has always, always, from day zero had a pitifully weak handheld compared to any and every other device. in fact, the 3DS was a big step up and departure for them. I believe they only made it because devs were complaining about the DS' weak specs.

And the 3DS is still very underpowered, it has ancient CPU cores (ARM11, not even the original Cortex's which increased performance massively and would fit in their power and thermal budget easily) but also proves that it's the games that make the console, not the specs.
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This guy makes a good point. Plus its funny.



Wii U sold to Nintendo fanboys and nobody else. The way Nintendo develops they dont need a NX. They need NX for 3rd part but not only that. They have to give a reason why they should get NX over PS4 or One.
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Wii U sold to Nintendo fanboys and nobody else. The way Nintendo develops they dont need a NX. They need NX for 3rd part but not only that. They have to give a reason why they should get NX over PS4 or One.
Calling people fanboys instantly makes your argument invalid.
In my opinion The WII U still has better exclusives than either xbone or ps4.
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I see people claiming this and every time i have to scratch my head. A smart device and a handheld are 2 completely different things for different needs. A smart device simply won't ever produce decent games for the "core gamer" till you got a decent control scheme. Sure you can play silly nonsense like stuff on the IOS or android store but actual core games? It is just not build for it. Nobody in their right mind would buy a smart device as a gaming device.

I wasn't arguing about which device is superior for core gaming purposes. I own both 3DS and Vita and they are simply better devices for core gaming and there aren't much argument against it. But the fact that 3DS only sold 50m n Vita failed to even crack 10m worldwide while DS sold 150m n PSP sold more than 80m means iOS and Android devices are taking casual gamers away from dedicated handheld.
Core gamers will stay on those consoles no matter what, but it would be hard to stay in the market unless they find a way to attract those casual gamers.

The issue isn't people gaming on phones, it's that parents are replacing their phones every few years and the old ones are given to kids for entertainment. When your only objective is to occupy a small child for 30 minutes any touch enabled device is surprisingly capable.
Kids don't choose the cell phone, it's thrust upon them with no alternative.
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So, Nintendo needs to make something that parents will use, and then discard.
Sony and Nintendo need to at least attempt to put telecommunications and productivity software on their primary gaming devices.
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Calling people fanboys instantly makes your argument invalid.
In my opinion The WII U still has better exclusives than either xbone or ps4.

I have to agree with this. Wii U has better exclusives than either XB1 or PS4 at the moment but thats just my opinion. Even tho i love and hate the Gamepad. I think if they make it smaller like the Patent shown below. And i can take it anywhere with me and game is gonna be amazing. If the NX comes out with a open world Pokemon game that will sell like crazy but i highly doubt it will. They will have to come out with some killer games on release day for this to sell like crazy or something unique.



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The issue isn't people gaming on phones, it's that parents are replacing their phones every few years and the old ones are given to kids for entertainment. When your only objective is to occupy a small child for 30 minutes any touch enabled device is surprisingly capable.
Kids don't choose the cell phone, it's thrust upon them with no alternative.

I have to agree to this. When i was a kid we had Atari, Commodore 64, Sega, Nintendo. Bought for us. But now parents give kids tablets and phones as entertainment. Which does a lot of stuff then just gaming.
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Calling people fanboys instantly makes your argument invalid.
In my opinion The WII U still has better exclusives than either xbone or ps4.

Die Hard Nintendo fan. There is a difference between a GPU/CPU fanboys over here in OCN and Consoles fans due to games and platform and not performance. NO matter how good PS4/One is there will always be Nintendo fans because of the games that are only available there. Only those that hare very big fans will drop the money for Wii U.
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