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I personally don't agree. Graphics aren't everything. They need the GAMES first and foremost. If they rely on the typical Nintendo franchises it will be another console that fails imo. It REALLY needs 3rd party support. It needs more games. Relying on the Mario, the Zelda and the like just isnt going to be enough.


They tried that with the WII U remember.

 

And thank Pete that they jumped onto the HD train with the U.

 

Their U lineup looks absolutely fantastic. Pikmin 3 is pure Nintendo eyecandy. Even distractingly so. I sometimes forget about what I'm doing because I get stuck looking at some random detail that caught my attention.

 

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Maybe Zelda but Mario? Nah. I don't see it, Mario is SO over done. SO over used. Just having a Mario game wouldnt be enough. Maybe another Mario Galaxies but other than that? I just dont see what kinda Mario game would make the console a huge console seller, unless they do an insane price on it.

 

Mario will make the console a great seller if they go back to what they had going on with the N64, GC and Wii.

 

AKA, a single world you can just mess around with, to then warp into other sub-worlds with several chapters.

 

I enjoyed 3D Land and 3D World on the 3DS and U, but they're nowhere as good as Sunshine/Galaxy.


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I think Nintendo is going to do their own thing.

I am pretty sure they are not going to bring out a console that will run the same games as the PS4/Xbox One. (Not from a technical standpoint, but rather a design standpoint and philosophy) Nintendo is always doing their own thing and that is (maybe) a good thing.

but to succeed they need to bring enough games to warrant the console. Graphics are important to sell stuff, but good games are even more important. As long as the console has better graphics than the Wii U and offers a good launch line-up + announcements for good games later down the road then I am sure the console will succeed. We gotta be honest here the new Star Fox Zero for the Wii U looks HORRIBLE.

The only thing I'm worried about is that Nintendo is probably trying too hard to integrate gaming into life in a way that you play mobile and with friends.

I feel like the NX is going to be more about cool new features instead of fancy hardware. Like people already suspect it is probably a mix between home console and mobile thing.

I see no problem in having roughly the same hardware as the Xbox One (what GPU even is it, like a 7790 or 7700 rolleyes.gif ). By the time the NX comes out the Xbox One is 3 years old with 5 year old tech.
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Interesting to see N's strategy here. Will they continue to lead with exclusives with just the add-on of mobile games? Or push out 'industry-leading chips' with an uber tech console and cater to 3rd party development? Did the humbling of WiiU sales finally wake up Nintendo? Now that the dev kits are released, hopefully we see some feedback and get more info on the process.
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in my opinion - it should have BETTER tech, look how old the PS4 and XBOne consoles are. They shouldn't be aiming to be "as good as" they should be looking at being BETTER than them. While graphics isn't the most important thing. It NEEDS to be at least trying to better when it comes to specs. I really hope they dont go with a giant ass controller or any other silly gimmick thinking that it will sell consoles - Wii was a success because it was something new. Something different. the WiiU was a HUGE failure because it was just the same old, same old. Nothing new with no 3rd party games.

I would love a Nintendo console, but i just don't see the value in one where it just has the same old games - the same old franchises. The NX would need to have both 1st AND 3rd party games and be a reasonable price for it to be something to consider getting.
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Ahem.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_million-selling_game_consoles

The Xbox sold a whopping 24-25 million units (no exact numbers are available).
The Gamecube sold 21.74 million units.

No left Z button? The Xbox didn't have any.
The Gamecube had a modem, and online games (just not Halo).
I'll admit, the mini-disk thing was a terrible idea, but...

At the time, the idea of launching a system with a modem and hard drive was absolutely not an option for anyone but Microsoft. Why?

http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/26/forbes-xbox-lost-microsoft-4-billion-and-counting/
http://www.neowin.net/news/report-microsofts-xbox-division-has-lost-nearly-3-billion-in-10-years
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-11-07-huge-xbox-losses-hidden-by-patent-royalties-says-analyst
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/xbox-one-has-raked-400-million-loss-microsoft-8-months-1460471

Because the entire Xbox division is, to this day, basically a marketing expense. Why on earth would anyone continue to dump money into a product that after 14 years has yet to actually produce returns?

The Xbox division under any other name would be a bigger failure than all other failed videogame consoles combined.

true. you can thank the garbage gaming press for always making it seem like a race between microsoft and sony back then when microsoft was a complete failure from the onset. gamecube made money, xbox never did. and sales were about the same, game sales were about the same. the PS2 had no competition. it was one mega hit and two complete flops. the difference being one of those flops was a well made system that didn't break as easily as the other two and was profitable despite low sales, no third party support and constant panning by the gaming press and other fanboys.
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in my opinion - it should have BETTER tech, look how old the PS4 and XBOne consoles are. They shouldn't be aiming to be "as good as" they should be looking at being BETTER than them. While graphics isn't the most important thing. It NEEDS to be at least trying to better when it comes to specs. I really hope they dont go with a giant ass controller or any other silly gimmick thinking that it will sell consoles - Wii was a success because it was something new. Something different. the WiiU was a HUGE failure because it was just the same old, same old. Nothing new with no 3rd party games.

I would love a Nintendo console, but i just don't see the value in one where it just has the same old games - the same old franchises. The NX would need to have both 1st AND 3rd party games and be a reasonable price for it to be something to consider getting.

They should yeah, but hardware hasn't really advanced far in the last couple of years. Just look at AMD. The 7970 28nm came out December 2011 and we have october 2015 and are still on 28nm and it looks like we will be on 28nm for the next 7-8 months at least.

Don't forget that the chance of some mobile tech attached to the NX is very high. So if they want to release a console that has that mobile device, but is also as strong/stronger than the PS4/XboxOne then how do they keep it 300-400$?


My hopes :


- Nintendo NX is roughly as powerful as a PS4/Xbox One
- Zelda Wii U is cancelled because it was too ambitious for the Wii U and is now a NX-only title
- Metroid announced for NX
- Donkey Kong announced for NX
- You are able to play 3DS games on the NX console AND NX mobile device !!! (that would be a huge one. INSTANT system seller for all 3DS users)
- Price is 399$ or lower
- Mid/End of 2016 release for the NX


By hopes I mean unrealistic expectations biggrin.gif
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Best case scenario of launch titles is releasing the trifecta: Mario, Zelda, Metriod. Boom. I dont remember, but did the WiiU have any stellar launch titles?
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Best case scenario of launch titles is releasing the trifecta: Mario, Zelda, Metriod. Boom. I dont remember, but did the WiiU have any stellar launch titles?

Yeah.


- Just Dance 4
- ESPN Sports Connection


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Well there is always a Mario game no matter what at launch
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Yeah.


- Just Dance 4
- ESPN Sports Connection


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Well there is always a Mario game no matter what at launch

Wha?? Thats a joke right?! The 3d mario wasnt a launch date game....otherwise i would have bought a WiiU.
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I assume this "mobile tech" will be like a replacement for the Nintendo DS or something? It could be interesting. The issue would again be how it would rely on the Mario, the Pokemon games, the Zelda games. Should the NX fail, i would prefer Nintendo go the route of Saga and then make their games for the other consoles. I think its too early to tell if the NX will fail or will succeed. I think the price, launch line up and such will decide if it succeeds or bombs. Though i dont think it could bomb as hard as the WiiU so theres that.
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