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rolleyes.gif but they're still plugged into the surround channels....

Oh sorry for the confusion but I moved them from the front to the surround since they were not working in the front, and was playing in surround.

UPDATE: Now both a and b channels are working for some reason....maybe the system had to "warm up" or something.
Edited by TheOwlHootHoot - 10/16/15 at 12:02pm
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What speakers are those? You can pick up used good speakers cheap on places like canuck and USA audio mart. Check it out. You can pick up speakers that were $3000 in 1980 for like $200 now and they'll be much better than what you have there.

What models of equipment do you have there? I couldn't make it out.

How many W into 4/8Ohm does your amp drive? Or I guess it's a receiver... Can't be jurassic if it has surround out so thats a plus.
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What speakers are those? You can pick up used good speakers cheap on places like canuck and USA audio mart. Check it out. You can pick up speakers that were $3000 in 1980 for like $200 now and they'll be much better than what you have there.

What models of equipment do you have there? I couldn't make it out.

How many W into 4/8Ohm does your amp drive? Or I guess it's a receiver... Can't be jurassic if it has surround out so thats a plus.

They are part time speakers for now. I have a set of Magnavox and Phillips. Both are cheap, but the Phillips sound a lot better (10 dollars at thrift store).

The receiver is a JVC RX-709V.

For my next upgrade I will most likely get some Dayton bookshelf speakers before I upgrade to some towers when we get a little more space.
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They are part time speakers for now. I have a set of Magnavox and Phillips. Both are cheap, but the Phillips sound a lot better (10 dollars at thrift store).

The receiver is a JVC RX-709V.

For my next upgrade I will most likely get some Dayton bookshelf speakers before I upgrade to some towers when we get a little more space.


I would try and get some used speakers, the ones you have are pretty meh.


For for new cheap speakers, these do pretty damn well.

http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-B652-AIR-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B00NOA58RS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1445122684&sr=8-1&keywords=dayton+air

The good old improved Daytons. Really no reason to get their cheaper version, when this is so much better. I have the First gen Original Daytons still, and still use them nearly every day on my bedroom TV setup. The Large woofers makes for a good TV setup on the cheap, got mine back when they were $28 a pair (have two pair). Wouldn't use them for anything more than a TV setup though, and they sound better loud than they do at lower volume levels. Which is one reason they don't make for the best desktop audio setup.


http://www.amazon.com/JBL-Loft-Bookshelf-Speakers-Pair/dp/B00DKPJSIM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1445122694&sr=8-2&keywords=jbl+loft

These are some pretty decent cheap JBL speakers, smaller than the Daytons for sure. I have them on my office TV, and are great. They can put out a good amount of bass, and really do sound pretty good for the price. Got mine on sale for $49.99, which is a good deal for these speakers. Would get these over the non Crossovered Micca's for sure.


http://www.amazon.com/Fluance-SX6-Definition-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B00067OS0A/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1445122725&sr=8-4&keywords=fluance

Really one of the best speakers you can get in this price range. Forget Polk Monitor 30s or The Pioneer bookshelf speakers, this is the speaker to get in the price range. Pure and simple. The only speaker in this price range that will give it a run for the money is the Klipsch B-20 (which I also own). Which tend to sell for around $179, but will go on sale around the price of the Fluance time to time.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882780029


Speakers listed above are about as good as it gets for bang for your buck. Really you will be spending a lot more $$ for smaller improvements to sound fidelity when you start looking past the Fluance and Klipsch speakers I listed.


And Again, old speakers from the 70's can be damn good as well. But can be damn ugly as well.


I would also go on craigslist and find a better receiver, that one is pretty meh. Only Prologic (not even prologic II), no digital input or multi-channel. So really it will only convert stereo into surround, and things recorded in Prologic (or dolby surround, like old vhs tapes).

$50-100 on CL will yield you with something much better.
Edited by DzillaXx - 10/17/15 at 4:18pm
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http://www.amazon.com/Debut-Bookshelf-Speakers-Andrew-Jones/dp/B014GSEQ06/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1445124212&sr=8-1&keywords=Elac+B6

Actually this is the best bang for the buck in speakers in 2015. Elac Debut B6. Designed by Andrew Jones. By all accounts they sound like $1000 class speakers, but for less than $300 a pair. Can't go wrong. Pick up some half decent speaker cable too.
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Yea from amazon I'm in-between the miccas and Dayton's bookshelves for my next buy. If we end up moving in December I will just wait and get some monster sized "ugly" floor speakers. Tons on Craig's list around here.
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Yea from amazon I'm in-between the miccas and Dayton's bookshelves for my next buy. If we end up moving in December I will just wait and get some monster sized "ugly" floor speakers. Tons on Craig's list around here.


Is this being used for music or movies/tv?
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Yea from amazon I'm in-between the miccas and Dayton's bookshelves for my next buy. If we end up moving in December I will just wait and get some monster sized "ugly" floor speakers. Tons on Craig's list around here.


Is this being used for music or movies/tv?

Primarily for music, but also with netflix and kodi.
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Oh sorry for the confusion but I moved them from the front to the surround since they were not working in the front, and was playing in surround.

UPDATE: Now both a and b channels are working for some reason....maybe the system had to "warm up" or something.

Just FYI when you play in surround, assuming you have a surround source, you will only get part of the sound out of surround channels. That's how that works. With two speakers you always plug into front L/R outputs and select stereo mode.

I don't see a DAC there. Better speakers and an entry level DAC like an AQ Dragonfly would go a long way for you.
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http://www.amazon.com/Debut-Bookshelf-Speakers-Andrew-Jones/dp/B014GSEQ06/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1445124212&sr=8-1&keywords=Elac+B6

Actually this is the best bang for the buck in speakers in 2015. Elac Debut B6. Designed by Andrew Jones. By all accounts they sound like $1000 class speakers, but for less than $300 a pair. Can't go wrong. Pick up some half decent speaker cable too.

Yes for the $300 range these are great. Actually have a pair on the way to replace my b-20s as main speakers. Granted not everyone is willing to spend 300 bucks on some speakers.

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Just FYI when you play in surround, assuming you have a surround source, you will only get part of the sound out of surround channels. That's how that works. With two speakers you always plug into front L/R outputs and select stereo mode.

I don't see a DAC there. Better speakers and an entry level DAC like an AQ Dragonfly would go a long way for you.

If you are listening to stereo you want to put your receiver in stereo mode like the guy said. It will turn off the extra amps, allowing the front channel amps not being forced to fight for power from the powersupply.






If you are going to be using this for music, forget thinking about getting Dayton speakers. Get the fluance, klipsch, or elac speakers posted.
Edited by DzillaXx - 10/19/15 at 5:46am
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