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Originally Posted by The EX1 View Post

The amount of misinformation in this thread is astounding. There is no corrosion happening.

OP- I recommend researching these parts prior to purchasing. Alphacool radiators are some of the best out there, but they are not cleaned prior to shipping after the manufacturing process. The residue you are seeing in your loop is not rust, it is flux and solder left over from manufacturing. All Alphacool radiators must be cleaned prior to being used in a loop. One of the water cooling leaders, Mayhems, has multiple tests and articles about this subject and even has a range of acids and cleaners aimed at radiators which need cleaning after assembly. These products are called "Blitz" and performance-pcs sells them.

The vinegar is coming out blue and discolored because of the reaction of the acid in the vinegar and the chemicals in the radiator and the copper itself. Flushing the rads with water, regardless of temperature, isn't going to do anything to strip the flux and solder out of the radiator. I also have a 480mm UT60 and my loop was never clean until I used one of the Mayhems Blitz Pro kits to strip the inside of the radiator and then neutralize it. To answer another question of yours, you want the Blitz Part 1 to be dis colored, it means it did its job.

Again, the is no corrosion in your loop, only flux and solder from Alphacool's manufacturing.

Luckily we got you here! Thanks! We are so much more informed now. cheers.gif
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the flux is water soluble therefore, water will get rid of the flux. the hotter, the better.

Not all flux residue from the soldering process is water soluble. If the flux is rosin based for example, water will not do the trick. I am unsure of what flux is used during manufacturing though. Here is a thread I created to share my experiences with a very dirty, yet brand new UT60 radiator. Flux is only part of what you have to worry about. I had a lot of copper flakes and what seemed like copper dust that remained after GALLONS of hot water and vinegar rinses. The surfactant in Blitz part 2 was the only thing that removed all the debris.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1503433/my-experience-with-a-contaminated-loop-mayhems-content-inside/0_30
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I am unsure of what flux is used during manufacturing though.

this tells us all we need to know.
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Luckily we got you here! Thanks! We are so much more informed now. cheers.gif

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I would hope that experienced water coolers, such as yourself, would know right off the bat that such extreme levels of corrosion as the OP described in an all nickel, brass, and copper loop would not happen so rapidly. Especially when those metals usually patina when exposed to oxygen and moisture, not rust.

There are COUNTLESS threads on this subject on OCN for Alphacool radiator users with the same exact symptoms.

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this tells us all we need to know.

Do you have a source stating that the flux is indeed soluble in water from the third party manufacturer that assembles these for Alphacool and Phobya? I also feel as if you are under the impression that flux is the only contaminant which is not the case as the OP is finding excess copper debris build up around his fittings. Something that happens often to members here when they fail to clean radiators properly.
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Odd that not all Alphacool rads are dirty. I purchased a ut60 480 and a xt45 480 over a year ago for a build that was put together in June 2014.

Those two rads were quite clean and had very little in the way contaminants from new. I have had these running in my current rig since then with no issues to report of.

I will be putting together a new build towards the end of this year and will be using Alphacool rads once again. This time it will be 2x UT60 560mm and a XT45 480 so it will be interesting to see how clean or dirty these rads will turn out to be.
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post #26 of 26
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There aren't any corrosion on the fittings, simply a coating of what looks to be like rust slime and which comes off when cleaned to reveal the shiny nickel beneath.
It looks extremely similar to what this guy posted in this thread: http://www.overclock.net/t/1567875/watercooling-issues-brown-gunk
Picture from that thread: https://imgur.com/wLVybMe

Think I will follow 'The EX1' advice and get the blitz pro kit + a couple filters and rinse the rads and see if that will help to stop my problem.
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