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Planning on buying an SSD around the 512GB capacity mark. I've been looking at Crucial, Samsung, SanDisk and OCZ mostly. I value warranty a lot when it comes down to SSDs.

Question1: I know what self-encryption does for drives, but I am not entirely sure what benefits it gives to a non-sensitive data environment. I do know that it enables the user to "empty" the drive by just deleting the encryption key, rendering all data unreadable, but is there anything else that I should know of? Reason for this question: the SanDisk Extreme Pro caught my eye (that price for that warranty), but apparently lacks the self-encrypting features most other drives do provide.

Question2: I do often use Linux. Samsung and Crucial are apparently known for possible issues with the Linux's TRIM implementations. Is running linux on an SSD a bad idea? Some quick google searches bring up some issues, including the recent news about TRIM issues. I am in no way certain of these issues.

Question3: Even though I've summed up a few brands, are others even worth looking into? Plextor, Adata, Kingston, ...


I've done some homework but would very much appreciate more information on the subject.

ps: the purchase can wait in case a new/groundbreaking generation of SSDs is making its way soon enough!
Edited by Ollii - 10/17/15 at 4:56pm
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What are you looking for? Highest performance or just a plain Jane SATA drive? I recommend just grabbing a Samsung 850 EVO or Crucial BX100/MX200 if you just want a maonsteam SATA drive.. Highest performance SATA get a Sandisk Extreme Pro. If PCIe get a Samsung 950 Pro...which will be available very soon. I think a week or two?

1. Unless you have an application for it, don't worry.
2. Don't worry about that, it was a RAID driver issue and everything is fixed now.
3. There are plenty, but I already stated my recommendations.
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What are you looking for? Highest performance or just a plain Jane SATA drive? I recommend just grabbing a Samsung 850 EVO or Crucial BX100/MX200 if you just want a maonsteam SATA drive.. Highest performance SATA get a Sandisk Extreme Pro. If PCIe get a Samsung 950 Pro...which will be available very soon. I think a week or two?

1. Unless you have an application for it, don't worry.
2. Don't worry about that, it was a RAID driver issue and everything is fixed now.
3. There are plenty, but I already stated my recommendations.

I checked out your recommendations before posting here. thumb.gif Not exactly looking for the much cheaper mainstream drives. I know they'll work, sold many of them to satisfied customers, but I'm looking for that extra reliability: warranty and reliable performance at any time.

Oh yeah those Samung M.2's coming out soon pack quite a punch, but I do not have an M.2 connection slot available at this time.
Might go for the 850 EVO, seems to be quite the balance for warranty, cost and performance.
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Just be aware that the Samsung drives need to have Queued TRIM disabled in the kernel or you will get problems when you issue discards (TRIM) on the filesystem.
What Sean says is not correct, there where two issues, one a issue with a RAID setup to a very specific customer.
The second one I'm mentioning affects any Linux kernel that supports queued TRIM and which does not have a blacklist for not issuing it to the Samsung drives.
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I swear they updated the black list for queued TRIM as well. I'll look into it later unless you have a link to share.

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I swear they updated the black list for queued TRIM as well. I'll look into it later unless you have a link to share.

The blacklist is for Queued TRIM. Most of the new kernels have the blacklist. If you have an older kernel, you have to either update the kernel or manually disable Queued TRIM yourself. Once Queued TRIM is disabled or blacklisted, Sequential TRIM will start to run on the SSD.

The RAID driver thing was a timing issue with Algolia's Linux Kernel and their RAID setup. Samsung released a patched kernel for them and the issue was fixed.
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Alright, shouldn't be too hard to keep that in mind. Thanks for the headsup, EVO 850: ordered!
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An 850 Evo?

:/ Meh. I'm sure it's a fine drive, but I personally wouldn't touch anything with TLC NAND if you're looking for a premium SSD. Samsung seems to have worked some of the kinks out, but the data retention issues still scare me, and the reduced endurance/sustained write speeds would trigger my OCD even if those problems don't come up in typical usage scenarios.
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An 850 Evo?

:/ Meh. I'm sure it's a fine drive, but I personally wouldn't touch anything with TLC NAND if you're looking for a premium SSD. Samsung seems to have worked some of the kinks out, but the data retention issues still scare me, and the reduced endurance/sustained write speeds would trigger my OCD even if those problems don't come up in typical usage scenarios.

I never gave Samsung a chance before, we'll see. If this one goes bad, lesson learned and move on. I wanted to avoid TLC, afraid of possible issues. But the warranty's got me covered in case anything happens and the drive won't hold a lot of important information. Just loads of operating systems, dev environments, ... .
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As far as I know TLC NAND in 850 EVO is quite different than for example TLC NAND in 840 EVO. And after reading some forum discussions I believe it is better. I think you don't have to worry about it smile.gif
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