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I want to replacing motherboard and cpu from a ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 and Intel Core i5-2500K OC to 4.5GHz.And want to know if its worth it.,i want to get a 6-Core cpu like a i7-5820K,dont know yet about what motherboard to get but will i see any big improvement in performance in gaming like bf4.im only replacing my motherboard and cpu b/c i got a gtx 980 ti it was a gift from my wife,so i want to put it to good use and fast lol,anyway thx.
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Get a 6700K with a z170 board. Comes with 8 logical cores that'll help you in games like BF4, GTAV etc. However, if you want the best upgrade for your money, I'd try to find a used i7 3770K, as the increase in gaming performance in CPU's have not been worth it for anyone to move from an Sandy Bridge system that is 4 years old. Not to forget, you'd not need to upgrade your motherboard & RAM, both of which are a pre-requisite for the newer Skylake processors.
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Get a 6700K with a z170 board. Comes with 8 logical cores that'll help you in games like BF4, GTAV etc. However, if you want the best upgrade for your money, I'd try to find a used i7 3770K, as the increase in gaming performance in CPU's have not been worth it for anyone to move from an Sandy Bridge system that is 4 years old. Not to forget, you'd not need to upgrade your motherboard & RAM, both of which are a pre-requisite for the newer Skylake processors.


there isn't single game that will use that (if u meant threads) if he want more cores get the i7 5820K better for future proofing (if that is a thing )

anyway the i7 6700K have hyperthreading , 4 cores and 8 threads but games don't benifit from hyperthreading as far as we I know and every benchmark i checked it got max 1 more fps on avg so I will say that is within margin of error so not good to buy the 6700k for gaming for that purpose . if u want to save money get i5k, and if u want something more high end and maybe do some streaming+video editing yes i7K is ur choice ,

as for what to chose i7 5820k vs 6700k , anyone who can afford 5820k I advice him to buy it , not just for the 2 extra cores but the ability to upgrade etc... (all the benefits comes with 2011-3 motherboards )






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I want to replacing motherboard and cpu from a ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 and Intel Core i5-2500K OC to 4.5GHz.And want to know if its worth it.,i want to get a 6-Core cpu like a i7-5820K,dont know yet about what motherboard to get but will i see any big improvement in performance in gaming like bf4.im only replacing my motherboard and cpu b/c i got a gtx 980 ti it was a gift from my wife,so i want to put it to good use and fast lol,anyway thx.


no won't see big improvement in gaming , right now games barley use more than 4 cores anyway , thats why i5 can max anygame 60fps+


here is comparison anandtech benchmarks for cpu will give u idea. chose the game u want and see intel 6 core cpu's vs 4 cores and see the fps difference maximum like 1 fps more
and 4 cores win sometimes over 6 cores and 8 cores

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/1072
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Get a 6700K with a z170 board. Comes with 8 logical cores that'll help you in games like BF4, GTAV etc. However, if you want the best upgrade for your money, I'd try to find a used i7 3770K, as the increase in gaming performance in CPU's have not been worth it for anyone to move from an Sandy Bridge system that is 4 years old. Not to forget, you'd not need to upgrade your motherboard & RAM, both of which are a pre-requisite for the newer Skylake processors.


there isn't single game that will use that (if u meant threads) if he want more cores get the i7 5820K better for future proofing (if that is a thing )

anyway the i7 6700K have hyperthreading , 4 cores and 8 threads but games don't benifit from hyperthreading as far as we I know and every benchmark i checked it got max 1 more fps on avg so I will say that is within margin of error so not good to buy the 6700k for gaming for that purpose . if u want to save money get i5k, and if u want something more high end and maybe do some streaming+video editing yes i7K is ur choice ,

as for what to chose i7 5820k vs 6700k , anyone who can afford 5820k I advice him to buy it , not just for the 2 extra cores but the ability to upgrade etc... (all the benefits comes with 2011-3 motherboards )

Haa, nope
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I was planning to upgrade CPU/Motherboard/RAM and get a 980ti or AMD equivalent coming from an i5 2500k and AMD 7950 3gb. I was pretty much suggested here to stick with the i5 2500k right now clocked to 4.5Ghz and only get a 980ti. There won't be a huge improvement for the money you will be dumping into the new parts.
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Get a 6700K with a z170 board. Comes with 8 logical cores that'll help you in games like BF4, GTAV etc. However, if you want the best upgrade for your money, I'd try to find a used i7 3770K, as the increase in gaming performance in CPU's have not been worth it for anyone to move from an Sandy Bridge system that is 4 years old. Not to forget, you'd not need to upgrade your motherboard & RAM, both of which are a pre-requisite for the newer Skylake processors.


there isn't single game that will use that (if u meant threads) if he want more cores get the i7 5820K better for future proofing (if that is a thing )

anyway the i7 6700K have hyperthreading , 4 cores and 8 threads but games don't benifit from hyperthreading as far as we I know and every benchmark i checked it got max 1 more fps on avg so I will say that is within margin of error so not good to buy the 6700k for gaming for that purpose . if u want to save money get i5k, and if u want something more high end and maybe do some streaming+video editing yes i7K is ur choice ,

as for what to chose i7 5820k vs 6700k , anyone who can afford 5820k I advice him to buy it , not just for the 2 extra cores but the ability to upgrade etc... (all the benefits comes with 2011-3 motherboards )

Haa, nope


wt is nope? hhhhhhhhhh u showed 8 cores vs 4 cores cpu and still 4 cores is less than 8 by 2 fps only which is within margin of error and lets say it is 2 fps better as ur link hhhhhhhhhh XDand ignore magrin of eror !! are u trolling ? XD or being sarcastic of joking really? and if u see 4770k vs 5960x lose by only 1 fps so my point still stand

coz no way u be serious ur own link 5960x have 8 cores and u must know it is extreme the cherry picked chip-set the top notch of the batch.

and your own link prove that cores and hyper-threading not important at all coz i3 got 68fps hhhhhhhhhhhhh so awesome that link. and i5 2500k got 73Fps so =.= plz what is nope exactly ? (so my statement i5 k can handle any game 60fps+ is valid )

OP look for yourself this is the link he did put and the image if u want to see his own link.

http://www.techspot.com/review/991-gta-5-pc-benchmarks/page6.html










conclusion: Logical cores (hyperthreading for intel ) are useless for any game we have now, and number of cores exceeding 4 also useless . ( i5 4690K vs i7 4960X ) only 2 fps more so much for hyper threading and 6 actual cores -.- . and this is I7 X not normal comparison hyperthreading and without hyperthreading , which can be found in the internet many benchmarks and will show u that there isn't improvement and if there is my previous post was right
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no won't see big improvement in gaming
unless u consider 1 fps or 2 fps is something big , then plz dont advice the OP he might get convincd and spend money he dont need to , based on ur suggestion .
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wt is nope? hhhhhhhhhh u showed 8 cores vs 4 cores cpu and still 4 cores is less than 8 by 2 fps only which is within margin of error and lets say it is 2 fps better as ur link hhhhhhhhhh XDand ignore magrin of eror !! are u trolling ? XD or being sarcastic of joking really? and if u see 4770k vs 5960x lose by only 1 fps so my point still stand

coz no way u be serious ur own link 5960x have 8 cores and u must know it is extreme the cherry picked chip-set the top notch of the batch.

and your own link prove that cores and hyper-threading not important at all coz i3 got 68fps hhhhhhhhhhhhh so awesome that link. and i5 2500k got 73Fps so =.= plz what is nope exactly ? (so my statement i5 k can handle any game 60fps+ is valid )

OP look for yourself this is the link he did put and the image if u want to see his own link.

http://www.techspot.com/review/991-gta-5-pc-benchmarks/page6.html

conclusion: Logical cores (hyperthreading for intel ) are useless for any game we have now, and number of cores exceeding 4 also useless . ( i5 4690K vs i7 4960X ) only 2 fps more so much for hyper threading and 6 actual cores -.- . and this is I7 X not normal comparison hyperthreading and without hyperthreading , which can be found in the internet many benchmarks and will show u that there isn't improvement and if there is my previous post was right
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no won't see big improvement in gaming
unless u consider 1 fps or 2 fps is something big , then plz dont advice the OP he might get convincd and spend money he dont need to , based on ur suggestion .

Well, here you go another article showing you the benefits of more cores.
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To get an idea of what's required to hit an ideal performance level, we tested four Intel processors - the Core i3 4130, Core i5 4670K, Core i7 4790K and the frankly insane octo-core i7 5960X. The dual core chip works well if you're happy with 30-40fps frame-rates on console-level settings, but you'll need the i5 to stand any hope of hitting the preferred 60fps standard. GTA 5 scales over eight cores and 16 threads, and while you won't see any gargantuan improvement over an i5 in terms of frame-rates, curiously we see more stable frame-times the more cores you throw at the game.

Here's another one with BF4



Also, don't go saying that the i5 4670K is 3fps behind i7 2600K, the haswell already has and IPC advantage over Sandy Bridge.
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@ huzzug u are joking right biggrin.gif hhhhhh
u posting links that prove opposite wt u trying to say. u can see the i5 better low fps than i7 by 5 fps and the average is only 2 fps higher , so wt am saying is right and wt u said is wrong according to your own links

see for urself


hhhhh I cant stop laughing.

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u showed 8 cores vs 4 cores cpu and still 4 cores is less than 8 by 2 fps

go try to convince someone else . man ur own links and till now u cant reply to this.


reply yo my post #6 with logic then talk .
ur own links
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see 4770k vs 5960x lose by only 1 fps

do u want to quote myself more?

u are not answering any of these . and just said nope.


IPC advantage or not look at ur links 4770k vs 5960x which is more ipc advantage ? and only 1 FPS u are not looking ? are u blind? from your own LINK Tech support link
Qouting u. 1000 $ cpu and 4 more cores same IPC both hasewell 4770k vs 5960x and 1 fps more plz dont post more and try to missguide the OP
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Haa, nope

Edited by fido - 11/9/15 at 12:07pm
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@ huzzug u are joking right biggrin.gif hhhhhh
u posting links that prove opposite wt u trying to say. u can see the i5 better low fps than i7 by 5 fps and the average is only 2 fps higher , so wt am saying is right and wt u said is wrong according to your own links

see for urself


hhhhh I cant stop laughing.

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u showed 8 cores vs 4 cores cpu and still 4 cores is less than 8 by 2 fps

go try to convince someone else . man ur own links and till now u cant reply to this.


reply yo my post #6 with logic then talk .
ur own links
Quote:
see 4770k vs 5960x lose by only 1 fps

do u want to quote myself more?

u are not answering any of these . and just said nope.


IPC advantage or not look at ur links 4770k vs 5960x which is more ipc advantage ? and only 1 FPS u are not looking ? are u blind? from your own LINK Tech support link
Qouting u. 1000 $ cpu and 4 more cores same IPC both hasewell 4770k vs 5960x and 1 fps more plz dont post more and try to missguide the OP
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Haa, nope

I''m not sure what you're trying to prove other than the fact that:

1. Yes a 2nd gen quad core i5 is 10% faster @ stock compared to a 4th gen dual core i3 at stock. (not same frequencies) OMGZ
2. My post #7 talks more than your post #6 about how the reviewer added more cores to get smoother frame time and more (although not massive) frames.

Now, I know you might bust a vein, but I'd like to understand why do you think people buy a hexa core for gaming (see BF4) if as per your own admission they aren't worth it ?
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not for gaming . and u still avoiding the answers and lying to yourself more.
here ur own link did show i5 4690K vs i7 4790K
and i did put the image and u did avoid it , and the i5 is higher in the low fps by 5 , and the i7 only 2 fps in the avg better so where is that massive more cores better for gaming?
i7 5960x 8 cores vs 4 cores 4770k 1 fps avg more !!

u said they are
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Comes with 8 logical cores
and u dont even know what that means . and i showed u that actual cores different than hyperthreading . and both more than 4 cores in intel are wasting money if u want them for gaming. u pay 1000$ to gain 1fps over the 4770k? u serious ?
and still trolling plz stop this u are misguiding the OP he might not know a lot about hardware and such things and will go buy according to ur advice and waste money , instead of investing money on gpu.



and ur own link this image is from , which actually put the i5 better than the i7 , coz 5 fps in low matters way more than 2 fps in average and if u will say no , then :3 just delete your ocn account and go play farmville on facebook and leave gaming pc recommendations for ppl who is trying to help not lie


here is BF4
i5 213$
i7 339$
both fps 61.4

intel Core i5 4570S 60.5fps VS i7 4790S 60.1fps VS i7 5960X 60.1fps [and the i5 4690K get 61.2 fps ] according to ur awesome deduction this 1.2 fps more should mean that this i5 is faster and it should be due to having more cores? well guessed wrong it have way less cores than 5960x and used ur game of choice BF4 and the i5 4570s even clocked at lower speeds than all the one's i wrote here and still win against i7 5960x and the i7 4790s .



wow ! i5 won? really?! how!?! hhhhhhh because u don't understand the concept of within the margin of error , because =.=! u need to read more and research then come and suggest ppl or u know these things and just like to misguide ppl and lie or u are Troll. there is no other possibility one of these 3 .

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/1107


why ppl buy hexa for gaming? in intel cpu's they are wasting money or they dont know about these stuff and was just victim of marketing and thought like u that more cores always better lol just like the silly phones joke that intel and asus made and did say we created a phone with 16 cores , they just took a xeon cpu and stick it to a phone with sticker hhhhhhhhhhhhh.

the idea is architecture is the most important thing , and cpu clock speed , cores number etc.. all comes later , there is bottleneck right now to how much game engines can utilize cpu and cpu cores (intel ) so they don't benefit from having more cores than 4.
thats why a lot of ppl who are on budget or want good value gaming pc they buy i5 .


amd is another story
if u want sli and other things that is also different story which can be a reason why they buy a cpu with more cores + pcie lanes etc..
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