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post #11 of 34
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I've gone off the EK Vardars. There are too many stories of units with whining or other such noises, even when they've supposedly been used within EK's directions. Also, it seems they require additional mounting measures to properly damp their 'normal' noise.

The Nidec Gentle Typhoons would be a great alternative, but they are ludicrously expensive in the UK. So now I'm leaning toward Fractal Design's Venturi HP-12's. They seem to get the nod from many silent computing enthusiasts. Their rubber corner design should obviate the need for gaskets and other additional sound damping. They are a touch more expensive (than the EK's), but sound as though they might be a match for the Vardars and Gentle Typhoons performance-wise.

I'm also starting to think about a power supply. Thinking about going straight to a Corsair AX1500i.
Edited by meson1 - 11/29/15 at 4:40am
post #12 of 34
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Thinking about going straight to a Corsair AX1500i.

That's the best one out there. thumb.gif I was using Seasonic XP3 1200W for my quad-GPU rig for some time, but it was just too noisy under load. Then switched to Corsair AX1500i, and it is whisper quiet. It is pumping out >1kW of power continuously and is just a bit warm to the touch. Less load than that, and the fan does not even need to spin at all
post #13 of 34
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That's the best one out there. thumb.gif I was using Seasonic XP3 1200W for my quad-GPU rig for some time, but it was just too noisy under load. Then switched to Corsair AX1500i, and it is whisper quiet. It is pumping out >1kW of power continuously and is just a bit warm to the touch. Less load than that, and the fan does not even need to spin at all
My original thinking was to go with Seasonic again. I have one in my current rig and it's good. But this time round my emphasis is more on noise control and so when I read up on the newest generation of their PSUs (XP3), I found out that they've come in for some criticism noise-wise. So I had a look at Corsair and discovered that the AX1500i is one of the quietest out there and would provide all the power I could possibly ever need without breaking a sweat. I saw Tom Logan's OC3D review too, which clinched it for me.
Edited by meson1 - 11/29/15 at 1:07pm
post #14 of 34
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What the hell. Trigger pulled on AX1500i. Cheapest place I could find it was Amazon.de.
post #15 of 34
how many and which gpus are guys running with 1500 PSU?
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Intel Core i7 2600K P8Z68-V PRO EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti ACX 2.0+ G.Skill Trident X Series 32GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
SAMSUNG 850 Pro Series MZ-7KE256BW 2.5" 256GB S... Samsung SSD 840 PRO Series Western Digital Caviar Black WD2002FAEX 2TB 720... Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Swiftech Komodo NV GPU water block Swiftech Apogee XL CPU water block Swiftech Maelstrom V2 Dual Bay Reservoir XSPC RX 360 V3 radiator 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
XSPC RX 120 radiator Lamptron FC5V2 fan controller Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit  Dell U3011 
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Dell U2412 Razer Blackwidow Ultimate CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX750  COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Full Tower - Black 
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post #16 of 34
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No idea. My new rig is a slow development and I'm buying bits and pieces as I go, so I'm not running yet. ... BUT ... I plan to run two or three GPUs. If I were to buy GPUs today, they'd be 980 Ti's. If I wait, I might be better off getting Nvidia's next gen GPUs, (1080's or whatever the equivalent model number turns out to be).

But I will also be running a lot of hard drives too (up to 11), so more power. I will probably overclock CPU and GPUs too, so even more power. I doubt I will get close to the full 1500w capacity of the PSU, but it will be efficient and crucially it will be quiet.
post #17 of 34
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So. So far I have bought:

  • 2 x Hardware Labs Black Ice SR-2 480 MP radiators
  • 2 x Hardware Labs Black Ice SR-2 240 MP radiators
  • 40 x Fractal Design Venturi HP-12 fans.
  • 1 x EK-XTOP Revo Dual D5 Serial, but with EK D5 Vario Pumps instead
  • 1 x EK-RES X3 250 Lite
  • 10 x EK-HD PETG Tube 12/16mm 500mm
  • 1 x Corsair AX1500i PSU

Now at this point, most of my remaining purchases are computer components or are things that are dependent on the computer components I ultimately buy (for instance, water blocks).

Based on currently available products, still to get are:
  • CPU: 1 x Intel i7-5930K
  • MBD: 1 x Asus X99-E WS or Asus X99-E WS/USB 3.1 or Asrock X99-WS Extreme 11
  • RAM: 1 x 64GB (4 x 16GB) Quad Channel DDR4 kit (either G-Skill Ripjaws V or Corsair Dominator) minimum speed 2800
  • WB: Asus X99-E WS Liquid Extasy NL-NSB Asus X99 E WS - Fullcover ... or ... Liquid Extasy NL-NSB - AsRock X99 Extreme 11 SB WB & NL-SW - AsRock X99 Extreme 11 VRM WB & CPU WB TBD (EK?)
  • GPU: 2 x OCUK Nvidia GTX 980 Ti with pre-fitted Waterblock
  • Bitpower Fittings

As you see, I have three choices of motherboard. I am favouring Asus because in general support is probably better (in terms of BIOS and driver updates), but I haven't entirely ruled out Asrock's Extreme 11 board with it's two u.2 sockets and 18 SATA ports. Choice of motherboard influences choice of waterblock(s). In this 'department' is another reason why Asus X99 WS board would be favoured: I know for sure that people have bought and installed Liquid Extasy's full cover waterblock.

However, what gives me pause is this: Broadwell E is due out at the start of Q2 2016, so that's likely to be April. If I were to buy a CPU today, it would be an i7-5930K. If I wait for Broadwell E, it'd be an i7-6900K. But with Broadwell E though, we are likely to get a refresh of many X99 motherboards, possible resulting in a more mature product, and ones that have been tested with 64GB RAM sets. The drawback is that new motherboards would likely mean new chipset/vrm waterblocks that would need to be developed.

Furthermore, one of my main reasons for my slow build is GPUs. Specifically, to skip the Nvidia 900 series and go straight to their Pascal GPUs. The argument being that Nvidia's next generation GPUs are far more likely to be 4K capable and should have greater performance headroom for turning up graphics settings at 4K resolutions with the least chance of input lag issues. The problem, of course is that we have no view of when Nvidia will finally be in a position to release their Pascal lineup. We could be looking at June or July. And then on top of that is the wait for waterblocks for same.

I did not envision taking another six months to build this rig, so right now, I'm in a bit of a quandary as to how to proceed. Do I wait for those Pascal GPUs? Do I even wait for Broadwell E?
Edited by meson1 - 1/20/16 at 11:08pm
post #18 of 34
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Ok. I've thought about some of it.
  1. CPU: It's worth waiting until April for Broadwell-E for a start off. So I'll be looking at the 8 core i7-6900K. But if the price of this proves to be prohibitive, my fall back plan is to grab a Haswell-E i7-5930K before they disappear.
  2. MBD: I'm forgetting the Asrock boards, they don't have all the PWM headers the Asus boards do. When Broadwell-E turns up, I'll look at Asus's revised X99 workstation board (if there is one), but my thinking is to stick with an Asus X99-E WS/USB 3.1, not least because Liquid Extasy's full cover water block for that board is developed and proven.
  3. GPU: Unless Nvidia surprise us, I don't think we are going to see Pascal until the second half of 2016. I'll wait the three months for Broadwell-E and if no news is forthcoming in that time, I shall proceed with my build using 980 Ti's.

So that is my plan for now.
post #19 of 34
New stuff is always coming out and you are always faced with the issue of 'do I wait or do I pull the trigger'. Sometimes being forced to wait (ie no $s at the moment) is good. It is, however, always frustrating.
post #20 of 34
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Oh yes. There's a fourth reason for waiting. SSD. I'm sure we'll see a 1TB NVMe m.2 SSD by April. I think Sandisk (X400?) have done one and I'm sure we'll see one from Samsung.
Edited by meson1 - 1/26/16 at 5:57am
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