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Hey everyone!

It's about that time to build a new computer and I'm more than ready to do so. I am more than open to recommendations, I want to keep the price of the build at about $1,000 for everything. I'll probably be mainly playing Call of Duty Advanced Warfare and Black Ops 3. Maxing the settings at 1080p with maybe 2X AA if needed is fine by me. I am interested in Battlefront and the new Need for Speed when it releases.

I do need a new monitor and keyboard, I have a G9x gaming mouse and a W10 key.
So far I'm thinking:

CPU - 860k with H212 EVO
Memory - 16GB DDR3-2400
Motherboard - FM2+ Fatality FM2A88X+
Hard Drive - 1TB WD Black
GPU - R9 380 4GB
Monitor - VG248QE
PSU - CX500M
Case - S340
Keyboard - CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate

This is $1,099.82 including shipping on NewEgg.

Thanks for the input and suggestions guys!
Edited by myresolution_72 - 10/19/15 at 11:57pm
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which would be your budget? and which games would you play?

that 960 isnt the best choice,the 290 is 30% and around a similar price
  
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The budget is $1,000 total.

I'll definitely be playing Advanced Warfare and Black Ops 3. Looking to play Need for Speed when it's released as well as Star Wars Battlefront.

I was eyeing the 290 so I'll probably look into going with that instead. I've read that it's comparable to a GTX 970.
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which would be your budget? and which games would you play?

that 960 isnt the best choice,the 290 is 30% and around a similar price
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($139.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card ($299.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($68.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: XFX TS 650W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $710.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Get a used 290/x If you can.
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Is the performance of the FX-8320 worth the money over an 860k?
Also will the FX-8320 or 860k bottleneck a 390?

Thanks!
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($139.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card ($299.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($68.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: XFX TS 650W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $710.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-20 02:09 EDT-0400

Get a used 290/x If you can.

Edited by myresolution_72 - 10/20/15 at 12:02am
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post #7 of 33
I went with the monitor and case you had in mind, and built around some of the components that have worked very well for me in my own build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($69.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus A88X-PRO ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($47.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card ($242.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT H440 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($104.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 660W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($249.99 @ Adorama)
Total: $1028.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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You could probably get down under the $1K price point easily by using a second-hand 290 rather than the new one. Or just drop the SSD, but I really don't recommend that. Even a cheapo SSD like that V300 makes a huge difference.
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Is the performance of the FX-8320 worth the money over an 860k?
Also will the FX-8320 or 860k bottleneck a 390?
The 860K has higher IPC because it's a newer revision of AMD's K15h microarchitecture. The 8320 does have twice as many cores and will out-perform the 860K on multithreaded software that can use more than four cores. Most of the time, the 860K will offer better overall performance. Most games can't use more than four cores (and even newer titles that can don't really need more than four), and MMO-type games rarely use more than two. If you're going AMD, get the strongest desktop core they offer, and that's in the 860K.

A 290/390 will be fine with an 8320 or an 860K. You wouldn't pair a Titan or a Fury with those CPU's, but a 290 or 390 is OK.
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The 860K has higher IPC because it's a newer revision of AMD's K15h microarchitecture. The 8320 does have twice as many cores and will out-perform the 860K on multithreaded software that can use more than four cores. Most of the time, the 860K will offer better overall performance. Most games can't use more than four cores (and even newer titles that can don't really need more than four), and MMO-type games rarely use more than two. If you're going AMD, get the strongest desktop core they offer, and that's in the 860K.
I guess the 860K is better than I thought smile.gif
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Is the performance of the FX-8320 worth the money over an 860k?
I think yes, considering the better future for multicore apps
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I guess the 860K is better than I thought smile.gif
Check out the 860K thread. Those of us who are running them have done all sorts of real-world testing on it. Nothing else you can buy for $75 comes close it as an all-around performer, and it beats a lot of stuff that costs much more. Depending on core and instruction set utilization, an overclocked 860K performs in the range of an i5-2400 to an i5-3570.

The only thing you have to watch for is that Kaveri is harder to overclock than a newer Vishera is. If you want to maximize an 860K, you need one of the FM2+ boards with a 6+2 VRM configuration, like an ASUS A88X-PRO or Crossblade Ranger, or the Giga GA-F2A88X-UP4 (there's an Asrock board that claims 8+2, but it's just a doubled 4+1 with weaker components). That's why I upgraded the motherboard in the build I posted earlier. I don't have any experience with the Giga board, but Stilt has recommended it and that's good enough for me.

You can still get better performance if you can use the extra cores that an FX offers, but you'll give up quite a bit of per-core performance in the process. I had an FX-8350 before I had the 860K, and I find that the 860K does a better job for me most of the time. If someone's doing a lot of rendering/encoding jobs, they might still want to consider the FX, though.
     
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Yeah I was looking at the benchmarks and I thought it was weird that the 860k outperforms the FX since the FX is supposed to be their top of the line processor.
Thank you so much for aiding my decision!
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I went with the monitor and case you had in mind, and built around some of the components that have worked very well for me in my own build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($69.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus A88X-PRO ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($47.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card ($242.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT H440 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($104.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 660W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($249.99 @ Adorama)
Total: $1028.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-20 02:56 EDT-0400

You could probably get down under the $1K price point easily by using a second-hand 290 rather than the new one. Or just drop the SSD, but I really don't recommend that. Even a cheapo SSD like that V300 makes a huge difference.
The 860K has higher IPC because it's a newer revision of AMD's K15h microarchitecture. The 8320 does have twice as many cores and will out-perform the 860K on multithreaded software that can use more than four cores. Most of the time, the 860K will offer better overall performance. Most games can't use more than four cores (and even newer titles that can don't really need more than four), and MMO-type games rarely use more than two. If you're going AMD, get the strongest desktop core they offer, and that's in the 860K.

A 290/390 will be fine with an 8320 or an 860K. You wouldn't pair a Titan or a Fury with those CPU's, but a 290 or 390 is OK.
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Check out the 860K thread. Those of us who are running them have done all sorts of real-world testing on it. Nothing else you can buy for $75 comes close it as an all-around performer, and it beats a lot of stuff that costs much more. Depending on core and instruction set utilization, an overclocked 860K performs in the range of an i5-2400 to an i5-3570.

The only thing you have to watch for is that Kaveri is harder to overclock than a newer Vishera is. If you want to maximize an 860K, you need one of the FM2+ boards with a 6+2 VRM configuration, like an ASUS A88X-PRO or Crossblade Ranger, or the Giga GA-F2A88X-UP4 (there's an Asrock board that claims 8+2, but it's just a doubled 4+1 with weaker components). That's why I upgraded the motherboard in the build I posted earlier. I don't have any experience with the Giga board, but Stilt has recommended it and that's good enough for me.

You can still get better performance if you can use the extra cores that an FX offers, but you'll give up quite a bit of per-core performance in the process. I had an FX-8350 before I had the 860K, and I find that the 860K does a better job for me most of the time. If someone's doing a lot of rendering/encoding jobs, they might still want to consider the FX, though.
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