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Yeah I was looking at the benchmarks and I thought it was weird that the 860k outperforms the FX since the FX is supposed to be their top of the line processor.
Thank you so much for aiding my decision!
You're welcome.

The FX is still the fastest CPU they offer if you need more than four cores. The 860K typically outperforms FX in workloads that use four or less cores simply because it's based on the AMD Steamroller architecture, the third iteration of K15h, while FX chips are based on Piledriver, the second iteration. FX wins on workloads that can use 6-8 cores, workloads that can use more than the two available FPU modules in the 860K, and server applications, because of the presence of the L3 cache. The 860K will be better in most real-world scenarios where four or less cores are in use, because of its more advanced core design.

For people who know they'll use eight cores, the 8-series FX chips remain an excellent value. If you only need four, the 860K is an even better value.
     
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You're welcome.

The FX is still the fastest CPU they offer if you need more than four cores. The 860K typically outperforms FX in workloads that use four or less cores simply because it's based on the AMD Steamroller architecture, the third iteration of K15h, while FX chips are based on Piledriver, the second iteration. FX wins on workloads that can use 6-8 cores, workloads that can use more than the two available FPU modules in the 860K, and server applications, because of the presence of the L3 cache. The 860K will be better in most real-world scenarios where four or less cores are in use, because of its more advanced core design.

For people who know they'll use eight cores, the 8-series FX chips remain an excellent value. If you only need four, the 860K is an even better value.

Thanks for explaining that, it definitely makes sense.
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post #13 of 33
as an 860K + R9 380 combo owner I can vouch for it's awesomeness
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You're welcome.

The FX is still the fastest CPU they offer if you need more than four cores. The 860K typically outperforms FX in workloads that use four or less cores simply because it's based on the AMD Steamroller architecture, the third iteration of K15h, while FX chips are based on Piledriver, the second iteration. FX wins on workloads that can use 6-8 cores, workloads that can use more than the two available FPU modules in the 860K, and server applications, because of the presence of the L3 cache. The 860K will be better in most real-world scenarios where four or less cores are in use, because of its more advanced core design.

For people who know they'll use eight cores, the 8-series FX chips remain an excellent value. If you only need four, the 860K is an even better value.
Are you certain? I looked at Ashes benchmark results and it put the 8 core FX (8370 stock) above the 860K as I recall, by a significant margin that clockspeed alone doesn't seem to account for. And, that game does not really leverage the FX cores because the FX was beaten by an i3.

Personally, I think the 8320E from Microcenter (once just $100 but now $110 — both with $40 off a motherboard bundle) is the one to beat.
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Yes, I am quite certain. There are some programs and games where an FX will win, no question about it. Some games can use the extra two FPU units on an 8-core FX to good use, and therefore will be faster than an 860K at the same clock despite the older core design. I said that earlier. But, in terms of across the board performance, not just cherry-picked workloads that can leverage the extra FPU's or make good use of the slow L3, the 860K is faster. I've had both an FX-8350 and an 860K and run a bajillion benchmarks on them, many of which I posted here.

I wouldn't say what I said if I wasn't certain of it. With that said, the FX chips are a good buy. I just happen to think the 860K makes more sense, more of the time.
     
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post #16 of 33
Price to performance the 860K is better than FX-4350. Lower wattage consumes less power ect. The only thing the FX has going for it is L3 cache and ability to run 5ghz.

860K is 69$ vs FX-4350 at 89$
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Price to performance the 860K is better than FX-4350. Lower wattage consumes less power ect. The only thing the FX has going for it is L3 cache and ability to run 5ghz.

860K is 69$ vs FX-4350 at 89$
Given that the 8320E was $100 and is now $110 at Microcenter I don't see why anyone would ever consider the 4350.
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You don't need a cpu cooler if you opt for 860K, but you need fans and lots of them to keep internal ambient temperature tempered.
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Given that the 8320E was $100 and is now $110 at Microcenter I don't see why anyone would ever consider the 4350.

Used for quad comparison purposes only. prices too.
post #20 of 33
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Given that the 8320E was $100 and is now $110 at Microcenter I don't see why anyone would ever consider the 4350.
At $89, the 4350 is a non-starter. The only reason I can see for going with anything less than an 8-core would be if you already had an AM3+ board and were just putting together a cheap basic PC. And if that's all you need, you can get a NOS FX-4130 for less than $60 now.

The 8320e at $100-110 new is a great deal, especially if you can use the eight cores. And these chips are much easier to keep cool than the older Visheras were.
     
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