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Even you stated above FX only wins for using more than 4 cores -6-8 cores load.

APU 28nm IPC is better than FX.
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as an 860K + R9 380 combo owner I can vouch for it's awesomeness

This fella here can attest. Doesn't need 8 cores to enjoy 99% of gaming titles.
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The FX is still the fastest CPU they offer if you need more than four cores. The 860K typically outperforms FX in workloads that use four or less cores simply because it's based on the AMD Steamroller architecture, the third iteration of K15h, while FX chips are based on Piledriver, the second iteration. FX wins on workloads that can use 6-8 cores, workloads that can use more than the two available FPU modules in the 860K, and server applications, because of the presence of the L3 cache. The 860K will be better in most real-world scenarios where four or less cores are in use, because of its more advanced core design.
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Used for quad comparison purposes only. prices too.

Thanks for the help! I pulled the trigger on a Skylake i5 build. biggrin.gif
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Thanks for the help! I pulled the trigger on a Skylake i5 build. biggrin.gif
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LOL! I didn't want to spend money on something that I wouldn't be able to upgrade in about two years. A new socket is a fresh start.
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lachen.gif This is getting a recurring theme lately in the forum. They come, forget to mention that they are open to Intel solutions, after many pages of multiple AMD rigs proposed, they pop up and say "thanks, i got Intel". And you feel like a moron. biggrin.gif I am seriously starting to think, that i will take the initiative to ask them "are you sure you don't want Intel?", so that the whole case can be solved in 1 page. This actually was a fortunate case, that ended after only 3 pages. Other cases are worse.

BTW, this should also ring a bell to AMD about their current pricing.

P.S.: No offense OP, this is happening like in 90% of cases, lately. So it's not you.
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lachen.gif This is getting a recurring theme lately in the forum. They come, forget to mention that they are open to Intel solutions, after many pages of multiple AMD rigs proposed, they pop up and say "thanks, i got Intel". And you feel like a moron. biggrin.gif I am seriously starting to think, that i will take the initiative to ask them "are you sure you don't want Intel?", so that the whole case can be solved in 1 page. This actually was a fortunate case, that ended after only 3 pages. Other cases are worse.

BTW, this should also ring a bell to AMD about their current pricing.

P.S.: No offense OP, this is happening like in 90% of cases, lately. So it's not you.
It could also be a way of playing the AMD folks. There is a ton of Intel chauvinism in a certain forum outside of overclock.net that will remain nameless.

Intel parts are nice but given that I was able to get an 8320E and a UD3P from Microcenter for less than $150...
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lachen.gif This is getting a recurring theme lately in the forum. They come, forget to mention that they are open to Intel solutions, after many pages of multiple AMD rigs proposed, they pop up and say "thanks, i got Intel". And you feel like a moron. biggrin.gif I am seriously starting to think, that i will take the initiative to ask them "are you sure you don't want Intel?", so that the whole case can be solved in 1 page. This actually was a fortunate case, that ended after only 3 pages. Other cases are worse.

Nailed it.

It's nearly useless to even discuss anything remotely having anything to do with an AMD build on this forum these days. /sigh.
 
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It could also be a way of playing the AMD folks. There is a ton of Intel chauvinism in a certain forum outside of overclock.net that will remain nameless.

You mean, that there is a forum that they are so fanboys that would come here only to have a laugh with topics that ask for configurations and then just say "went Intel"? PM me with that forum name, now i am curious!

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Intel parts are nice but given that I was able to get an 8320E and a UD3P from Microcenter for less than $150...

Yeah, i don't complain either, since in a post deleted by some mod, i had put down numbers and i basically bought 2 FX CPUs for about 225 euros, which are in video encoding (which is what i care for), equivalent (once at 4Ghz) to i5 2500+i7 3770. The two Intels, even by todays reduced prices (compared to when i bought the FXs), cost more than double the money. As a result, i actually built 2 rigs, one of which dedicated 100% to video encoding, so basically my FX 8 rig is always available for anything else. I now only encode on the FX8 core just for fun, when i have nothing to do on it or if i want something faster. Which is amazingly cosy as a solution.

In USA you get great combo deals, but here they don't exist and AMD is losing the price battle quickly... Somehow, when i bought my FX8320 i did for about 120 euros. Now the lowest price is 132. In the meantime, all the Intel offerings have decreased in price and right now the cheapest i5 is 4440 at 167 euros. The cheapest i3 is 3220 at 100 euros, cheapest FX6300 at 98 euros.

I also see in local (italian) fora, that new purchases of AMD CPUs, have plumetted for this reason. They prefer to get the cheapest i5 and a cheap Asrock motherboard, than to get 8320+UD3P+good cooler for gaming purposes. Because at the end, it comes to cost about the same.

The poor FX6300 is like a species under extinction for new purchases, they all grab the cheapest i3 they can find and go play.
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You mean, that there is a forum that they are so fanboys that would come here only to have a laugh with topics that ask for configurations and then just say "went Intel"? PM me with that forum name, now i am curious!
Yeah, i don't complain either, since in a post deleted by some mod, i had put down numbers and i basically bought 2 FX CPUs for about 225 euros, which are in video encoding (which is what i care for), equivalent (once at 4Ghz) to i5 2500+i7 3770. The two Intels, even by todays reduced prices (compared to when i bought the FXs), cost more than double the money. As a result, i actually built 2 rigs, one of which dedicated 100% to video encoding, so basically my FX 8 rig is always available for anything else. I now only encode on the FX8 core just for fun, when i have nothing to do on it or if i want something faster. Which is amazingly cosy as a solution.

In USA you get great combo deals, but here they don't exist and AMD is losing the price battle quickly... Somehow, when i bought my FX8320 i did for about 120 euros. Now the lowest price is 132. In the meantime, all the Intel offerings have decreased in price and right now the cheapest i5 is 4440 at 167 euros. The cheapest i3 is 3220 at 100 euros, cheapest FX6300 at 98 euros.

I also see in local (italian) fora, that new purchases of AMD CPUs, have plumetted for this reason. They prefer to get the cheapest i5 and a cheap Asrock motherboard, than to get 8320+UD3P+good cooler for gaming purposes. Because at the end, it comes to cost about the same.

The poor FX6300 is like a species under extinction for new purchases, they all grab the cheapest i3 they can find and go play.

+1, I"m with you all the way on this.. but if you want OC fun, the FX-6300 is great value for money still, provided a good mobo and PSU is utilized (like in all OC adventures) 4.5 - 4.6GHz stable enough for gaming is too easy..thumb.gif and with vast majority of games only using 3 or less FPU units, that chip still has good cards with DX11 or lower based games. However, future DX12 games on W10 will be big changers for this PC gaming industry.
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I apologize if you guys felt it was a smack in the face. I definitely appreciate the advice, insight, and recommendations given by each one of you. Once it was all said and done and I put the two side by side, the reason I went with the Intel build is because the price difference was pretty close ($255 difference: $200 for the CPU and $55 for a good board) and I was able to get a new socket, faster CPU, faster RAM, and future proof myself. It's already a debate between AM3+ and FM2+ and I didn't want to make the mistake in choosing the wrong one, add the fact that AMD would be releasing a new socket in the near future it didn't set well with me spending money on that socket. Granted my last build I didn't upgrade at all besides the GPU over the course of 6 years, I didn't mind spending the extra $255 for brand new tech. I can keep my same monitor and get a new one later and there you have a better system for the same total price.
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