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Greetings everyone. I'll try to make this brief.

Did some home remodeling and have about 15 feet by 15 feet space to work with. Recently purchased my first audio receiver (Onkyo TX-NR747) and have a budget of ~$800 for the speakers. By no means am I a crazy audiophile but I obviously still want to run a quality setup for my music, movies, and games. I did a quick Amazon search and found the Onkyo 7.1 SKS-HT993THX which I thought might be a good choice to conserve space with hanging them on the shelf/ceiling. I'm open to what you guys have a say whether it's to save money or something better with the same budget.

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Why not just go with a soundbar?
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-HW-J7500-Channel-Wireless-Soundbar/dp/B00UE9NKF4/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1445226694&sr=1-1&keywords=soundbar+7.1
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Is that a 'quality' sound bar? Do you have first hand experience with it. I would like to know more if that's what you recommend especially considering it's much less than what I'm spending on for both my receiver (if I return it) and speakers. I didn't research on 'sound bars' these days since I have an old Samsung HW-D450 sound bar that seemed 'okay'. I think the sound is actually degrading now but I guess that's what I get for going cheap on those things.
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Samsung is crap when it comes to audio products. Don't waste the money.


Personally I would return that onkyo receiver. Go on accessories4less and pickup a Yamaha advantage receiver, will make for a better receiver for a lower price.


Next what is your speaker budget?



Soundbars can be nice space savers, but don't make for anything more than mediocre audio setups. Even the really good ones.


I would look into fluance or elac speakers. Klipsch synergy line is pretty decent too.
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Not to rain on your parade, but at your price point (Less than $800) you could get a 2.1 system that will sound way better than a 7.1 system costing twice as much. And if you're open to purchasing used, then way, way better

Look at it this way:
Back ion the "silver era" - 1978 to 1984, R&D and Engineering departments were given all the $$$ they wanted to produce the best sounding equipment using the best possible components. The high end components they produced are still among the best sounding available.
An amplifier costing $1,000 then would cost well over $3,000 in today's dollars, and can be had for $200 - $400 used today. That's not to say there isn't a lot of old junk out there, but the high end amps were something to behold, and still are.

Just something to think about..................
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Not to rain on your parade, but at your price point (Less than $800) you could get a 2.1 system that will sound way better than a 7.1 system costing twice as much.
And if you're open to purchasing used, the way, way better


For music yes.

For movies, 5.1+ all the way. No comparison. Stereo can't give you that surround sound effect.



For tv 3.1+ is best. TV is all pretty much dd now, and heavily use the center channel speaker. The elac speakers would be a good choice for a 3.1 setup. Couldn't imagine watching football without the center speaker.
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For music yes.

For movies, 5.1+ all the way. No comparison. Stereo can't give you that surround sound effect.



For tv 3.1+ is best. TV is all pretty much dd now, and heavily use the center channel speaker. The elac speakers would be a good choice for a 3.1 setup. Couldn't imagine watching football without the center speaker.

I'll second Elac. Even a 3.0 setup (Two Towers and a Center Channel) will blow away the Onkyo setup. Not to mention if you ever wanted to upgrade in the future they should have decent resale value. You won't with the Onkyo setup or a soundbar.
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Samsung is crap when it comes to audio products. Don't waste the money.


Personally I would return that onkyo receiver. Go on accessories4less and pickup a Yamaha advantage receiver, will make for a better receiver for a lower price.


Next what is your speaker budget?



Soundbars can be nice space savers, but don't make for anything more than mediocre audio setups. Even the really good ones.


I would look into fluance or elac speakers. Klipsch synergy line is pretty decent too.

Do those 'refurbished' equipment come with all accessories? I can't seem to find out where it mentions that on their website. I'm also looking at those receivers you mentioned. Is the lowest-end model what to go for? Seems like the only noticeable difference are the amount of wattage each channel puts out, the extra HDMI inputs/outputs, and stuff I don't even know about like zones/YPAO...

'Refurbished' RX-A740 - $369.99
'Refurbished' RX-A840 - $499.99
'Refurbished' RX-A1040 - $649.99

Compared to

'New' Onkyo TX-NR747 - $799.99

My speaker budget is around ~$800 as mentioned above. Any recommendation on what Elac/Fluance/Klipsch speakers to look into based on my budget?

I went ahead and started looking around 'sound bars' again since eno439 mentioned them. Would you say that the Sony HT-ST9 is considered one of the 'mediocre' audio setups? Still scavenging reviews on what still seems to be a newly released product.

I appreciate your 'input' (see what I did there biggrin.gif). Thanks.


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Not to rain on your parade, but at your price point (Less than $800) you could get a 2.1 system that will sound way better than a 7.1 system costing twice as much. And if you're open to purchasing used, then way, way better

Look at it this way:
Back ion the "silver era" - 1978 to 1984, R&D and Engineering departments were given all the $$$ they wanted to produce the best sounding equipment using the best possible components. The high end components they produced are still among the best sounding available.
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Just something to think about..................

That's why I wanted some personal opinions and recommendations thumb.gif

However...just as DzillaXx mentioned (that I'm going to quote right after)...I wouldn't get the 'surround' effect that any decent 2.1 setup would provide.


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For music yes.

For movies, 5.1+ all the way. No comparison. Stereo can't give you that surround sound effect.



For tv 3.1+ is best. TV is all pretty much dd now, and heavily use the center channel speaker. The elac speakers would be a good choice for a 3.1 setup. Couldn't imagine watching football without the center speaker.

Yep. I agree on comparison with the surround effect.

Television is probably the last thing I'd worry about when looking for the best audio setup with my current budget. That's the reason why I'm looking more toward a 5.1 or 7.1 setup since this will be mainly focused on games and blu-ray movies. Although it's weird that researching more about sound bars...the higher-end and more expensive ones seem to still be able to provide 'surround' headscratch.gif

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I'll second Elac. Even a 3.0 setup (Two Towers and a Center Channel) will blow away the Onkyo setup. Not to mention if you ever wanted to upgrade in the future they should have decent resale value. You won't with the Onkyo setup or a soundbar.

Upgrading is nice but I would probably stick with what I end up getting for this audio setup...like I'm seriously still running my old Logitech Z-5500 for my PC redface.gif If anything, I would probably continue to save up and add additional speakers to work my way up toward 5.1/7.1 surround sound.
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Do those 'refurbished' equipment come with all accessories? I can't seem to find out where it mentions that on their website. I'm also looking at those receivers you mentioned. Is the lowest-end model what to go for? Seems like the only noticeable difference are the amount of wattage each channel puts out, the extra HDMI inputs/outputs, and stuff I don't even know about like zones/YPAO...

'Refurbished' RX-A740 - $369.99
'Refurbished' RX-A840 - $499.99
'Refurbished' RX-A1040 - $649.99

Compared to

'New' Onkyo TX-NR747 - $799.99

My speaker budget is around ~$800 as mentioned above. Any recommendation on what Elac/Fluance/Klipsch speakers to look into based on my budget?

I went ahead and started looking around 'sound bars' again since eno439 mentioned them. Would you say that the Sony HT-ST9 is considered one of the 'mediocre' audio setups? Still scavenging reviews on what still seems to be a newly released product.

I appreciate your 'input' (see what I did there biggrin.gif). Thanks.
That's why I wanted some personal opinions and recommendations thumb.gif

However...just as DzillaXx mentioned (that I'm going to quote right after)...I wouldn't get the 'surround' effect that any decent 2.1 setup would provide.
Yep. I agree on comparison with the surround effect.

Television is probably the last thing I'd worry about when looking for the best audio setup with my current budget. That's the reason why I'm looking more toward a 5.1 or 7.1 setup since this will be mainly focused on games and blu-ray movies. Although it's weird that researching more about sound bars...the higher-end and more expensive ones seem to still be able to provide 'surround' headscratch.gif
Upgrading is nice but I would probably stick with what I end up getting for this audio setup...like I'm seriously still running my old Logitech Z-5500 for my PC redface.gif If anything, I would probably continue to save up and add additional speakers to work my way up toward 5.1/7.1 surround sound.


The receivers from accessories4less are refurbished from the manufacturer (like yamaha). They come with everything that a new unit ships with. Honestly other than being refurbished, it will look brand new. I've gotten two units from them, and wouldn't shop anywhere else now. Best way to get a awesome receiver for cheap. The money you save can be used for better speakers.



The Elac B6 is what I would consider, though the B5 is what matches their center channel woofer size wise. Would make for a good start. Could always add their floor standing speakers to the setup later. The Elac's debut speakers are new and highly rated. Otherwise the fluance setup would be pretty good for the price, if you want 5.1 from the start. Unless you are willing to put together a elac 5.1 setup from the start.
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The receivers from accessories4less are refurbished from the manufacturer (like yamaha). They come with everything that a new unit ships with. Honestly other than being refurbished, it will look brand new. I've gotten two units from them, and wouldn't shop anywhere else now. Best way to get a awesome receiver for cheap. The money you save can be used for better speakers.



The Elac B6 is what I would consider, though the B5 is what matches their center channel woofer size wise. Would make for a good start. Could always add their floor standing speakers to the setup later. The Elac's debut speakers are new and highly rated. Otherwise the fluance setup would be pretty good for the price, if you want 5.1 from the start. Unless you are willing to put together a elac 5.1 setup from the start.

The Elac speakers look quite attractive especially if I would go for the whole 5.1 setup. I may end up just waiting more patiently to save up even further while returning my Onkyo receiver for a full refund after learning all about that refurbished website. My only problem would be space constraints. I'll have to see what I should do and make a final decision later on.
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