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Well this thread has been largely unreadable. OCN's news section is so ridiculous these days.
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This thread derailed and started sailing.
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What are you talking about.... You actually think I faked my settings, LOL. I showed my settings TWICE, at 45 SECOND mark and 2:26 SECOND MARK to prove my settings were same throughout the gameplay... and of course those video's you posted would look better, they were recorded in-game...mine was recorded with a PHONE CAMERA. ALSO I DIDNT NEED TO APPLY MY SETTINGS AT 2:26 MARK BECAUSE THEY WERE ALREADY APPLIED AT 45 SECOND MARK



My whole phone camera recording has no cut-off at anytime...so please reiterate how its fake again?

This is so amusing, and I find it even funnier how rcfc89 agreed with you so fast rolleyes.gifrolleyes.gifrolleyes.gifrolleyes.gif

Oh and you keep claiming about the VRAM usage...every system is different. Here is another guy on 1440P pretty muched maxed out too just no MSAA and similar to my VRAM usage...@ 30 second mark. Hes is 2.5GB so about 300MB lesser VRAM usage than mine because of no MSAA, I had 2x MSAA, hence 2.8GB

How about the pop up at 3:26. <
EXPLAIN THAT Why is your video so bad and the three I put up are actually 1440P. Your video looks like it was recorded using an xbox. And you can see such a huge difference without the videos even running. LOL. Make a new video and apply the setting where we can see them! You got to admit the videos I put up look 100% better than yours! It's plain to see.
Here is the real truth. With proof. What do you have? A fake video. The videos I put up are running at 1080! yet another failed argument. Because the video I use look so much better than yours. Because even though they are recorded at 1080p, the game is played at 1440p



Edited by DrFPS - 10/19/15 at 5:42pm
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post #104 of 172
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How about the pop up at 3:26. <
EXPLAIN THAT Why is your video so bad and the three I put up are actually 1440P. Your video look like it was recorded using an xbox. And you can see such a huge difference without the videos even running. LOL. Make a new video and apply the setting where we can see them! You got to admit the videos I put up look 100% better than yours! It's plain to see.
Here is the real truth. With proof. What do you have?



I think he said he recorded it using his cell phone. That's going to look poor and hit 30 fps max.
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When you're used to playing at high frames, and you try and play at anything even at the 60fps range you'll understand very well how large of a difference it is. If your experience is only playing at ~60fps, you have nothing to compare it to those who are consistently playing at 90+, or even 120+ fps.

FPS is tied to a lot of other things, input lag, game engine mechanics, etc. It's not simply just a number.

It's all a matter of experience and perspective. wink.gif

I've been around the gaming scene long enough to know all that wink.gif My point is, it doesn't make a game "unplayable". I've played on high frame rate monitors, and a lot of games I play are often locked at 299fps 99.9% of the time (CS:Source for example) and yes, it is nice and does make a difference

However I can also play that same game at 60fps and still have a perfectly playable experience. There is a large difference, but again, the difference is not between playable or unplayable, but between good and ideal and that's for an engine that is known to response very well to the higher frames, let alone the fact that it's the one genre (besides racing) that truly benefits from it. This is what some don't seem to grasp about frame rates and the reality of what playable really is. I wouldn't call an RPG like Skyrim any more "playable" at 144fps than I would having it run at 30fps. Again, obviously one is better, but neither matter much for that speed of game in regards to pure playability.
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How about the pop up at 3:26. <
EXPLAIN THAT Why is your video so bad and the three I put up are actually 1440P. Your video looks like it was recorded using an xbox. And you can see such a huge difference without the videos even running. LOL. Make a new video and apply the setting where we can see them! You got to admit the videos I put up look 100% better than yours! It's plain to see.
Here is the real truth. With proof. What do you have? A fake video. The videos I put up are running at 1080! yet another failed argument. Because the video I use look so much better than yours. Because even though they are recorded at 1080p, the game is played at 1440p



[/VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m50W8slVotc [/VIDEO]
[/VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrdKbxhqOTg [/VIDEO]
[V/IDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0uDzU8KTiQ [/VIDEO]

I have no idea why that pop showed up at 3:36.

I already told you I used my cell phone to record... Its pretty obvious from my video as you can see my monitor and room wall...

I don't know why its so hard you to believe I am getting those frames with my settings... take off the tinfoil hat.

Also all these benchmarks you keep posting are with old drivers, you do realize with new drivers comes optimizations.
Edited by ImJJames - 10/19/15 at 5:50pm
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You have no clue. Even with 2x MSAA and FXAA ON I am constant 55 FPS and rarely at 40 FPS. And it is very smooth.

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I think he said he recorded it using his cell phone. That's going to look poor and hit 30 fps max.

He claims 55 FPS @2650 1440. Yet he wont show him actually hitting the space bar to apply the 1440 settings. Also if you watch his video there is a 1 sec pop up@3:26 that proves he recored at 1080p and tried to pass it off as 1440. Hence why the pop up says "would you like to apply new settings". The new settings were at 1440 he is already recording at 1080.
Thats why rock* has the vram amount on the settings page. Most system use 3.4 to 3.8GB vram @1440 and you can clearly see his is at 2.7 or at 1080p

Nice try expect all the videos I put up also viewed 1080p. And look at the difference. Look I've been playing this video game at 2560 1440 since it was released.
Your not playing at 2560 1440 at 55 fps your not. Not on a single 290, no else can. And your video proves it.
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He claims 55 FPS @2650 1440. Yet he wont show him actually hitting the space bar to apply the 1440 settings. Also if you watch his video there is a 1 sec pop up@3:26 that proves he recored at 1080p and tried to pass it off as 1440.

Dude its not 1080P ... my god I feel like I am talking to a brick wall.

I'll do another recording, idk why I am wasting my time with you.
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380 doesn't have a 65% larger die size, it's more likely half of that considering 380 is a cut down chip and tonga doesn't use 384-bit bus which is present.
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58% according to Techpowerup, ~360 mm^2 compared to 227 mm^2 for the 960. It's the same die as the R9 285.
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He claims 55 FPS @2650 1440. Yet he wont show him actually hitting the space bar to apply the 1440 settings. Also if you watch his video there is a 1 sec pop up@3:26 that proves he recored at 1080p and tried to pass it off as 1440. Hence why the pop up says "would you like to apply new settings". The new settings were at 1440 he is already recording at 1080.
Thats why rock* has the vram amount on the settings page. Most system use 3.4 to 3.8GB vram @1440 and you can clearly see his is at 2.7 or at 1080p

Nice try expect all the videos I put up also viewed 1080p. And look at the difference. Look I've been playing this video game at 2560 1440 since it was released.
Your not playing at 2560 1440 at 55 fps your not. Not on a single 290, no else can. And your video proves it.

We will put this to rest in a little bit. I recorded a run on my system using the same settings he used (except my monitor does 2560x1600 - 16:10 aspect ratio)

Will post the videos once they are uploaded.
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