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post #121 of 172
Because the reviews are base on the games created today, not for tomorrow.

if u guys remember GTX570,580 used to have enough Vram, look what happen now. 1.25GB/1.5GB is barely enough, infact Gtx660, 660Ti use to be same speed of 570/580 is now kicking their butt due to extra vram.

GTX960/R9-380 2GB will going to face a similar problem in the future.
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This thread derailed and started sailing.

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post #123 of 172
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You have gone off your rocker. What do you have to say now?

http://www.overclock.net/t/1577463/eurogamer-960-vs-380-how-much-vram-do-you-really-need-2gb-vs-4gb/110#post_24522923

I have already proved your wrong. Beyond the shadow of a doubt. Why you keep skipping over the fact you had a pop up at 3:26 that asked do you wish to apply new settings.

The reason it asked that is because you were at 1080. Just the vram alone proves some thing is not right. And then you actually look at 2560 1440 and it makes your video look like an xbox.
Good reason for that xbox is 1080. Enough said. lachen.gif
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I have already proved your wrong. Beyond the shadow of a doubt. Why you keep skipping over the fact you had a pop up at 3:26 that asked do you wish to apply new settings.

The reason it asked that is because you were at 1080. Just the vram alone proves some thing is not right. And then you actually look at 2560 1440 and it makes your video look like an xbox.
Good reason for that xbox is 1080. Enough said. lachen.gif

Did the whole video again. I want to know how you feel after this video after calling me out on making a fake video.



Highlights

0:01 Clearly showing I am using a phone camera, you can see my desk, hence why the quality is extremely poor, plus youtube compression makes it even worse.

0:09 Making sure graphic card has no overclock
1:17 Graphic settings that are already applied cleary shows 1440P
3:10 Huge explosions still doesn't dip below 50 FPS
3:43 Double checking graphic settings to make sure its still 1440P and settings are still applied
4:15 Alt-Tab to prove I was running 290X STOCK and not overclocked

VIDEO IS CONTINUOUS AND RECORDING DOES NOT CUT-OFF AT ANYTIME TO AVOID FOUL-PLAY ACCUSATIONS
SCREENSHOTS FOUND HERE
http://www.overclock.net/t/1577463/eurogamer-960-vs-380-how-much-vram-do-you-really-need-2gb-vs-4gb/110#post_24522923
Edited by ImJJames - 10/19/15 at 7:29pm
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post #125 of 172
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I keep telling you the VRAM usage thing in settings page will vary from computer to computer.

Didn't on any system I ever installed it on...
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post #126 of 172
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Didn't on any system I ever installed it on...

Are you trying to say I faked my VRAM usage on this VIDEO
http://www.overclock.net/t/1577463/eurogamer-960-vs-380-how-much-vram-do-you-really-need-2gb-vs-4gb/120#post_24522976

and SCREENSHOT,
http://www.overclock.net/t/1577463/eurogamer-960-vs-380-how-much-vram-do-you-really-need-2gb-vs-4gb/110#post_24522923


and another guy's video I showed using similar settings usage has almost same VRAM usage as mine is also faked? So I faked all this within 30 minute time-frame??? rolleyes.gif
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDsTbzC3yAE

I mean how far are we going to take this...rolleyes.gif
Edited by ImJJames - 10/19/15 at 7:36pm
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post #127 of 172
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Indeed, even if 285/380 were not cut down chips, they'd still be 58% bigger than 960 and not 65%.

But they're and it should be around 300mm2 to 227mm2 which would be 32% or half of his 65% figure.

A cut chip still takes up the same die area as full chip. That being a it still takes up 366mm2. Cut down doesn't mean they are literally cut down where the cut portion can be reused to make another chip. It is just lasers off, to increase yields.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2734/radeon-r9-380.html

The gtx 960 takes up 227mm2 and r9 380 is thus 61% larger or 366/227 = 61.2%. The use of a cut chip simply increases the amount of usable candidates, but doesn't make the chip any smaller. The gtx 960 being a smaller chip gives it naturally more usable candidates since defects are more isolated. This means the gtx 960 is substantially easier to produce and cheaper to make, particularly with Nvidia's less aggressive transistor density.

Also AMD still not selling 380x has more to do with an exclusitivity contract or bad yields, either do not contribute to your argument.

Just look at AMD plummeting margins and it should be clear as day that AMD is making little no money on all their products. AMD margins tanked after maxwell was released. AMD gross margins shrank another 2% recently which is odd considering that the price of their whole graphic lineup swelled beside the r9 380 series.

What makes AMD job more difficult from selling a 366mm2 GPU card and selling it at a profit is the fact that they are not the only one that needs to make money. What about the boardmakers cost and cut, What about neweggs or the distributers cut, the cost for the logistics to get the shipment to a consumer hands. With all this taken into account, I would be shocked to see AMD make really any money. The never settle game bundle has been one of the best selling point for AMD cards and has not been updated with newer games. And this is likely due to AMD tightening margins and poor cash flow.

These hundred million dollar loses are coming from selling products too cheap.
Edited by tajoh111 - 10/19/15 at 7:28pm
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Edited by Mad Pistol - 10/19/15 at 7:42pm
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post #129 of 172
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Indeed, even if 285/380 were not cut down chips, they'd still be 58% bigger than 960 and not 65%.

But they're and it should be around 300mm2 to 227mm2 which would be 32% or half of his 65% figure.

They aren't physically cut down, they are just disabled internally. Likewise, the 980Ti isn't any smaller than the Titan X and the 970 isn't any smaller than the 980.
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Are you trying to say I faked my VRAM usage on this VIDEO
http://www.overclock.net/t/1577463/eurogamer-960-vs-380-how-much-vram-do-you-really-need-2gb-vs-4gb/120#post_24522976

and SCREENSHOT,
http://www.overclock.net/t/1577463/eurogamer-960-vs-380-how-much-vram-do-you-really-need-2gb-vs-4gb/110#post_24522923


and another guy's video I showed using similar settings usage has almost same VRAM usage as mine is also faked? So I faked all this within 30 minute time-frame??? rolleyes.gif
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDsTbzC3yAE

I mean how far are we going to take this...rolleyes.gif

Why do you care what some people on the internet think? Lol, just be glad you made a wise purchase instead of trying to justify it to strangers.
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