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Yea, the problem is absolutely my ability to critically think when you say you are running those frames at "ultra" settings right I mean you..
Oh.

Yea... about those ultra settings.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1577463/eurogamer-960-vs-380-how-much-vram-do-you-really-need-2gb-vs-4gb/130#post_24523165

^ In that POST you just claimed with same exact settings of mine your VRAM usage is not identical even though having same video card. So prove it by showing us a screenshot with identical settings. This has nothing to do with "ULTRA". Prove it, show us a screenshot with SAME EXACT settings as MINE.
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http://www.overclock.net/t/1577463/eurogamer-960-vs-380-how-much-vram-do-you-really-need-2gb-vs-4gb/130#post_24523165

^ In that POST you just claimed with same exact settings of mine your VRAM usage is not identical even though having same video card. So prove it by showing us a screenshot with identical settings. This has nothing to do with "ULTRA". Prove it, show us a screenshot with SAME EXACT settings as MINE.

What are you arguing? True Ultra settings did not match the memory usage your video shows. Of course your 'updated ultra to you' settings that you run will obviously be lower.. Not sure what the issue is here besides you claiming ultra settings for two pages straight only to have everyone say otherwise only for you to go "my bad, those are my settings for those frame rates, not ultra".
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You raged one a couple of pages about settings and what not, Im quite sure you are not in the position to demand anything right now.
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You raged one a couple of pages about settings and what not, Im quite sure you are not in the position to demand anything right now.

I never raged, someone was saying I faked my settings and that it was running on 1080P... I posted another video to prove that I was running 1440P. You clearly can't differentiate rage....as I am extremely calm.
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And? They are disabled chips so using the total die size to make performance comparison is wrong.



Your argument started off on performance, so you're wrong on that count. As for telling me that those chips aren't cut down, well yeah they are making money for AMD in laptops and with apple. The tonga line in PC is an after thought and not something they came up with to compete with 960. I hope this is clear to you now.

The margins were mostly lost on Hawaii chips with Maxwell's release. And even that is up with 390/390X series.

They went 20% margins on consoles, if you're telling me that they are doing less on graphics cards let alone in negative, then you're laughably wrong.

It's the performance that determines the asking price, its the die size that determines the profits. Hence the flow of my argument.

The performance of the r9 380 is close enough to the gtx 960, that AMD has a hard time charging more for it and likely has to charge the same due to the Nvidia brand strength. The difference is, Nvidia chip is substantially smaller and cheaper to make, which enables Nvidia to make a profit. AMD not so much. The price of Most of AMD products are low considering the chips for their products are too large which increases cost and lowers gross margins.

Didn't say AMD was selling the cards at a loss but margins I could see being single digits on some products which isn't good enough to pay for R and D and overhead. Margins on AMD products are varying at this point, some with margins lower than consoles some higher. Considering some products like professional cards have margins of atleast 75%, some products in AMD product stack have to have sub 20% margins. Considering AMD CPU have been stable as far as price goes, I suspect some of their GPU are selling below the margins of the CPUS. CPU's don't have as many middle men that need a cut to make a profit and most of AMD CPU lineup have smaller dies than the upper end of their GPU line up and they also use a cheaper manufacturing process.

AMD margins really took a beating after maxwell and this has been the lowest it has ever been since maxells release.
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You did fake your settings since you claimed Ultra all the time, maybe you should double check next time before claiming that? wink.gif

*Not saying you did that on purpose but double checking the meaning of Ultra would get you a long way next time.
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You did fake your settings since you claimed Ultra all the time, maybe you should double check next time before claiming that? wink.gif

You clearly haven't read through the whole thread, it started here. http://www.overclock.net/t/1577463/eurogamer-960-vs-380-how-much-vram-do-you-really-need-2gb-vs-4gb/80#post_24522150,
then again here http://www.overclock.net/t/1577463/eurogamer-960-vs-380-how-much-vram-do-you-really-need-2gb-vs-4gb/100#post_24522819

and again here

http://www.overclock.net/t/1577463/eurogamer-960-vs-380-how-much-vram-do-you-really-need-2gb-vs-4gb/100#post_24522851
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He said my settings were at 1080P the whole time, which clearly it was 1440P. Nothing to do with "ULTRA"
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I don't need to justify my purchase though wink.gif Bought it for $200 USD on craiglist, plays all the games I want on 1440P on ULTRA settings with no issues and I don't even overclock it. I made the RIGHT purchase, can't say the same for other people.

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You underestimate 290X, even on GTA V with ultra settings 1440P my MINIMUM is 45FPS

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If it says HIGH that is the MAX the game would let you set it at... have you actually played the game before? Some settings you can set to VERY HIGH and some only to HIGH.

And you just went on and on and on about it.

Sorry, but stop digging yourself deeper and just admit you were wrong about it.
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And you just went on and on and on about it.

Sorry, but stop digging yourself deeper and just admit you were wrong about it.
I already did admit I was wrong about ULTRA settings http://www.overclock.net/t/1577463/eurogamer-960-vs-380-how-much-vram-do-you-really-need-2gb-vs-4gb/130#post_24523173

I went on and on about running 1440P and trying to prove that it wasn't at 1080P because of this guy... http://www.overclock.net/t/1577463/eurogamer-960-vs-380-how-much-vram-do-you-really-need-2gb-vs-4gb/140#post_24523221
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He clearly assumed that by your VRAM usage when you tried to push the Ultra settings story. On 1080 it comes near that usage when on actual ultra (if not even more VRAM usage). When you finally said those werent ultra settings the post solved itself, no?
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