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Bored at work, I only just read about this similar topic on HARDOCP.. which I consider to be the better of the two reviews on the matter

Seems that Dying light gets 15%+ from the 4gb cards which is pretty impressive. Who's to say releases over the next 12 months there won't be more titles like this?

Also HARDOCP seems to think that two non reference editions of these cards are pretty much tied at 1080p..

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/08/04/msi_geforce_gtx_960_gaming_4g_video_card_review/7#.ViXBePaqqko

So many variables in the sites these use for testing , but on the positive good to see amd has a solid offering at the price point
post #162 of 172
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Originally Posted by Alvarado View Post

Not to derail the conversation going on an all but, the only time you'd need vram is for a modded Bethesda title. tongue.gif Anyway, continue arguing.
Bethesda modded games is actually a good indication on how a future games will eat into ur vram usage by just throwing in higher resolution texture.

I get that we can run Gta V even 256mb PS3, but when u see their texture, that where u see texture plays a major role in vram usage. The current games have no issue with it, because it is design around to assume majority of the GPU have 2GB ram. Texture resolution is for 2GB GPU.
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post #163 of 172
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"58 FPS is unplayable", rolleyes.gif

sigh, you are the 0.01% or you're just trying to justify your $700 graphic card purchase.
yes I'm that 1 in 10000 who notices stuttering under 60fps when vsync is on and tearing when it's off, that is the whole reason gsync/freesync are so obsolete nowadays and absolutely noone ever says they change anything.

what's your point on this site ? that you bought a $200 card which runs 1440p fairly well and you don't believe a 980ti runs it much better ? that noone ever needs a $700 card ? that Radeons don't stutter under no circumstances ? That people who want more than 45fps min/55 avg fps are spoiled cause it's an unnecessary whim? that it's your choices that set the world's trends in gaming ?
How about this, just write down the reason why you think you're posting this yourself and we'll agree with you.
Edited by Klocek001 - 10/20/15 at 1:25am
post #164 of 172
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yes I'm that 1 in 10000 who notices stuttering under 60fps when vsync is on, that is the whole reason gsync/freesync are so obsolete nowadays and absolutely noone ever says they change anything.

what's your point on this site ? that you bought a $200 card which runs 1440p fairly well and you don't believe a 980ti runs it much better ? that noone ever needs a $700 card ? that Radeons don't stutter under no circumstances ? That people who want more than 45fps min/55 avg fps are spoiled cause it's an unnecessary whim?
How about this, just write down the reason why you think you're posting this yourself and we'll agree with you.

His point is that you said 'there's nothing smooth about this gameplay'. Which is owed to the camera, not to the FPS being at 58fps.

I think it's pretty clear from the context, you talked to him and got an adequate reply, if you never brought up your confusion about camera/game performance into this, then this whole little mini conversation would've never happened. = D

I hope it is now clear that it's due to the camera, and that your opinion on FPS is a sideplot that we can discuss (though the topic was never properly introduced and suffered a lot from that. There was no need to contextualize it with choice of GPU, and no need to make the softly implied assumption that a video at 58 looks like it's at unstable 30 on radeon, when it's simply owed to the camera.). Then again we don't need to discuss that topic here anyway. Since we all have settings to adjust for higher framerate (I'm also very fond of 100+ FPS/sometimes with vsync).

Also I'm probably not going to check back on this this topic because the same set of opinions has been repeatedly exchanged from the start here, in one way or another. smile.gif
Edited by Tivan - 10/20/15 at 1:37am
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Bored at work, I only just read about this similar topic on HARDOCP.. which I consider to be the better of the two reviews on the matter

Seems that Dying light gets 15%+ from the 4gb cards which is pretty impressive. Who's to say releases over the next 12 months there won't be more titles like this?

Also HARDOCP seems to think that two non reference editions of these cards are pretty much tied at 1080p..

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/08/04/msi_geforce_gtx_960_gaming_4g_video_card_review/7#.ViXBePaqqko

So many variables in the sites these use for testing , but on the positive good to see amd has a solid offering at the price point

4GB will be adequate for gaming for several years but we (4GB card owners) definitely won't max games out in a year or two.
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post #166 of 172
I've been saying this for 1 year now and I'm going to keep saying it, for 1080p 2GB of memory on theese cards is all that you need. And that conclusion comes from manny weeks of personal testing.
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4GB will be adequate for gaming for several years but we (4GB card owners) definitely won't max games out in a year or two.

Well when that happens NVDIA/AMD is going to jump along and maybe 6GB will be the standard.
They cannot have a flagship card that cannot max games after all.
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with these gpus you will run out of gpu power before the memory lol
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with these gpus you will run out of gpu power before the memory lol
I can bear lower average frame rates if minimums don't dip like the way memory bottlenecked cards do. I hated the imc training of 4890, it wouldn't allow you to overclock the memory.
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I found it. That's exactly what the issue is. It's the advanced graphics settings.

I turned down Extended Distance Scaling from max to lowest, and BAM!!!

2850MB VRAM usage.


Now we know how he's getting that VRAM usage @ 2560x1440.

That explains a lot! No wonder he is getting the performance he is claiming.
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