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Seriously guys? Like 3 posts in and they're already lighting the torches and grabbing pitch forks. Seriously, mods just need to cut out the bickering and leave the data in your posts. We get that people want to feel like they made "the best" choice but just because you think you did doesn't mean you have to trample someone else. Let's keep the egos out for the love of hardware and just deal with the facts. Sheesh.

I'm glad AMD's 380 seems to be winning. Sad to see the 960 cards doing 1FPS worse it seems in average FPS with their 4GB models though. Doubt it's significant but still, they charge more for those models and to get worse just seems cruelly ironic. Wonder if Nvidia is going to fix that with a driver or if that is a sign the GPU itself is the problem.

380 on average got 10 to 15 percent more frame's than 960 depending on resolution. Not sure where you came up with "1 FPS".

You do realize there are people on this forum would pay an extra $100+ for 10 to 15 percent improvement...
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I'm only going to say this....as much as I have to lol. VRAM is overrated. Especially on weaker GPU's that are going to produce a slide-show at settings high enough to justify the need for high video RAM.

The fact is, most of the games we play have very little visual difference between "Ultra" settings and settings that provide the FPS performance many seek (60 fps min standard). assuming?? rolleyes.gif

Very few people need the high Video RAM. Even 4k users have little to no trouble with dual 970's and their 3.5 GB VRAM. Some of you just have to "max" everything out just to sleep better at night. The truth is, it's just not necessary. Play with the settings for yourself.

On another note, some software has a way of scaling to the memory you have too. If it's there, it'll use it, even though there is no performance improvement.

Yes, i'm aware you can find a cherry picked situation such as LOTR where it's an epic VRAM hog. But you can adjust settings that have little to no impact on eye candy and get rid of the slide show gameplay when using a 2-3 GB VRAM GPU.
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Seriously guys? Like 3 posts in and they're already lighting the torches and grabbing pitch forks. Seriously, mods just need to cut out the bickering and leave the data in your posts. We get that people want to feel like they made "the best" choice but just because you think you did doesn't mean you have to trample someone else. Let's keep the egos out for the love of hardware and just deal with the facts. Sheesh.

I'm glad AMD's 380 seems to be winning. Sad to see the 960 cards doing 1FPS worse it seems in average FPS with their 4GB models though. Doubt it's significant but still, they charge more for those models and to get worse just seems cruelly ironic. Wonder if Nvidia is going to fix that with a driver or if that is a sign the GPU itself is the problem.
I might be wrong on this, but I suppose I heard 950 replacing 960 over at techreport's podcast.
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I think I will be picking the 380 for 1080p. I was going for either of these cards, but prolly I could get more out of the 380 in the long run.
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I'm only going to say this....as much as I have to lol. VRAM is overrated. Especially on weaker GPU's that are going to produce a slide-show at settings high enough to justify the need for high video RAM.

The fact is, most of the games we play have very little visual difference between "Ultra" settings and settings that provide the FPS performance many seek (60 fps min standard). assuming?? rolleyes.gif

Very few people need the high Video RAM. Even 4k users have little to no trouble with dual 970's and their 3.5 GB VRAM. Some of you just have to "max" everything out just to sleep better at night. The truth is, it's just not necessary. Play with the settings for yourself.

On another note, some software has a way of scaling to the memory you have too. If it's there, it'll use it, even though there is no performance improvement.

Yes, i'm aware you can find a cherry picked situation such as LOTR where it's an epic VRAM hog. But you can adjust settings that have little to no impact on eye candy and get rid of the slide show gameplay when using a 2-3 GB VRAM GPU.

I completely agree, I honestly can't tell the difference from ULTRA and HIGH in most games. My eyes may be bad though biggrin.gif
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380 on average got 10 to 15 percent more frame's than 960 depending on resolution. Not sure where you came up with "1 FPS".

You do realize there are people on this forum would pay an extra $100+ for 10 to 15 percent improvement...

Sorry the comparison was between the 2GB and 4GB 960 wondering why the 4GB seemed to lose FPS while the 380 didn't have that issue in it's variants.

I realize people would do that. I was just suggesting people could keep things from the trite fanboy flame wars.
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I might be wrong on this, but I suppose I heard 950 replacing 960 over at techreport's podcast.

Wait, they're going to completely remove the mid-low end in the Nvidia line up? A 950 is even weaker than a 960 how is that a smart move?
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Sorry the comparison was between the 2GB and 4GB 960 wondering why the 4GB seemed to lose FPS while the 380 didn't have that issue in it's variants.
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I completely agree, I honestly can't tell the difference from ULTRA and HIGH in most games. My eyes may be bad though biggrin.gif

smile.gif Your eyes are probably just fine. My vision is excellent. Even PC exclusives have very little difference. The biggest visual difference is the resolution you're using.
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And derp on me. But, why wouldn't they just get the cards from the same OEM or at least clock control them? How can we make valid comparisons if variables aren't controlled? Maybe I'm being too picky?
     
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