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Originally Posted by 2002dunx View Post

Given the western worlds propensity towards obesity......

Get up, and go and put the kettle on Stoopid !

dunx

P.S. What if your shower was hacked devil.gif

That's going too far!
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I completely disagree. I see IoT as the future, there is no stopping it.

People are lazy, they want more convenient ways of doing their tasks.

Just imaging if everything in your home had an IP address, was connected to your network and you'd have to do essentially nothing.

First, your alarm is connected to your stereo, which is connected to your calendar, you'd never sleep for too long because the only snooze button is when you're out of bed.

Right, so you're off your bed, the kettle turns on automatically and so do the lights in your apartment.

Your fridge knows what's in there and what isn't expired so it gives you an idea what you could cook and how it will take to prepare each of those meals. However your bowel movements from yesterday (according to your toilet) suggest that you should stay away from the oatmeal.

You finish your meal, poop and wouldn't you know it, you're really low on Vitamin D and Iron, you don't have any at home so it's automatically put in your ToBuy list and the next time you hit the Supermarket you'll be reminded.

You hit the shower, 3 minutes later you're clean, the shower stops to preserve water, also you've got some important meeting in 50 minutes so you've got to hurry up.

You walk out, no need to lock the door since it locks automatically, there is no doorknob, just a little display with eye-scanner/fingerprint-reader etc.

Now that you're gone, your Roomba vacuum goes to action, all other unnecessary electricity is turned off as well as the AC (which turns on exactly 10 minutes before you get home).

This sounds ridicules today but in 10 years this might not be so crazy..


People are lazy and you'd have to do essentially nothing. That's as far as I'm willing to agree with you.


So let's iterate further:

The snooze is only off when you're out of bed, but that only works in a healthy way if you actually got enough sleep during the night, thus your IoT home will lock the doors and windows and won't let you out of the house past 11 to go anywhere, and will turn off your computer at the same time, so no more Internet or games or shows for you after that. And if you start being mad at the lack of freedom you have, it will just release a numbing gas so you feel like sleeping anyway.

Cook? What for? Just trust the machine that will do it for you. Hit the supermarket? Why? Just have the computer order what it already knows is good for you to eat and have an automated delivery service drop it off while you're away and your machines will sort it and put the groceries in the freezer, etc and will then cook it before you arrive at a predictable time because it's what is good for you, the machine says.

Also, the shower stops to preserve water? That has existed for many years now in many shopping malls, you don't need IoT for that. Anyway, let's move on with the distopia:

Leave the house? Why? Just work from home, why spend so much time in traffic losing years of your life stuck in a confined space?

But wait, work? Why work? If machines have the potential to do everything for you and determine what is best for you, where exactly do you fit in in this society of robots?
Edited by tpi2007 - 10/19/15 at 11:08am
 
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If machines have the potential to do everything for you and determine what is best for you, where exactly to you fit in in this society of robots?

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post #14 of 76
That poor poor kettle...

"take over your kettle"

"vulnerable kettle"

lol

A lot of people don't even secure their wifi to begin with.
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Why does a kettle need WiFi in the first place...?
     
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Why does a kettle need WiFi in the first place...?

I would guess laziness. Seriously, a wi-fi kettle is just completely unnecessary.
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Why does a kettle need WiFi in the first place...?

So you can put a kettle on the boiler the night before and then set it to turn on when you wake up so by the time you reach the kitchen it's hot and ready. Then again, I never understood people who need coffee to wake up. I'm caffeine immune.
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So you can put a kettle on the boiler the night before and then set it to turn on when you wake up so by the time you reach the kitchen it's hot and ready. Then again, I never understood people who need coffee to wake up. I'm caffeine immune.

But they already have coffee machines/kettles with timers that do this. Needing it to be app-enabled is utterly ridiculous.
   
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The big issue with all these devices(including mobile phones) is that they are not a standardized platform that could be supported with a standard Linux ARM distribution. if that were the case updating the devices would be a lot easier for the OEMs than it is now. Most SoC OEMs just release the chips with a custom build software stack(including binary drivers) and then just forget about it. That makes updating devices after a certain point very difficult, even if one were so inclined. If this doesn't get fixed fast, IoT is going to become a security nightmare in the near future.
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Why does a kettle need WiFi in the first place...?

While this topic covers a kettles, the vulnerability that comes with IoT in its entirety is more so the issue at hand. Producers of products have the choice of going with cheap security measures or actually putting some time and effort into making their products secure. In the pursuit of profits, they usually opt for the first option. This allows for vulnerabilities in your network and ultimately leave you open to attacks.
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