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Originally Posted by CULLEN View Post

I completely disagree. I see IoT as the future, there is no stopping it.

People are lazy, they want more convenient ways of doing their tasks.

Just imaging if everything in your home had an IP address, was connected to your network and you'd have to do essentially nothing.

First, your alarm is connected to your stereo, which is connected to your calendar, you'd never sleep for too long because the only snooze button is when you're out of bed.

Right, so you're off your bed, the kettle turns on automatically and so do the lights in your apartment.

Your fridge knows what's in there and what isn't expired so it gives you an idea what you could cook and how it will take to prepare each of those meals. However your bowel movements from yesterday (according to your toilet) suggest that you should stay away from the oatmeal.

You finish your meal, poop and wouldn't you know it, you're really low on Vitamin D and Iron, you don't have any at home so it's automatically put in your ToBuy list and the next time you hit the Supermarket you'll be reminded.

You hit the shower, 3 minutes later you're clean, the shower stops to preserve water, also you've got some important meeting in 50 minutes so you've got to hurry up.

You walk out, no need to lock the door since it locks automatically, there is no doorknob, just a little display with eye-scanner/fingerprint-reader etc.

Now that you're gone, your Roomba vacuum goes to action, all other unnecessary electricity is turned off as well as the AC (which turns on exactly 10 minutes before you get home).

This sounds ridicules today but in 10 years this might not be so crazy..

I agree, IoT and IoE is the future
post #22 of 76
same hack works for cellphones and home security systems, sitting outside someone's house with the equipment is criminal in england, europe AND the usa.
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Just imaging if everything in your home had an IP address, was connected to your network and you'd have to do essentially nothing.

First, your alarm is connected to your stereo, which is connected to your calendar, you'd never sleep for too long because the only snooze button is when you're out of bed.

Right, so you're off your bed, the kettle turns on automatically and so do the lights in your apartment.

Your fridge knows what's in there and what isn't expired so it gives you an idea what you could cook and how it will take to prepare each of those meals. However your bowel movements from yesterday (according to your toilet) suggest that you should stay away from the oatmeal.

You finish your meal, poop and wouldn't you know it, you're really low on Vitamin D and Iron, you don't have any at home so it's automatically put in your ToBuy list and the next time you hit the Supermarket you'll be reminded.

You hit the shower, 3 minutes later you're clean, the shower stops to preserve water, also you've got some important meeting in 50 minutes so you've got to hurry up.

You walk out, no need to lock the door since it locks automatically, there is no doorknob, just a little display with eye-scanner/fingerprint-reader etc.

Now that you're gone, your Roomba vacuum goes to action, all other unnecessary electricity is turned off as well as the AC (which turns on exactly 10 minutes before you get home).

sounds as lame as 'the island' Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
screw that, ill have all the bacon i want tongue.gif
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same hack works for cellphones and home security systems, sitting outside someone's house with the equipment is criminal in england, europe AND the usa.

your assuming a.) the hacker cares and is not exploiting a software vulnerability to open the mansion doors to the safe thats also IoT and b.) that in future anyone needs to sit outside anywhere to create absolute chaos and even death.



still, its been said in this thread already, they will never patch these smart devices like people expect. All that will happen is that governments will raise the level of kettle hacking to life in prison as a deterrent, but that wont actually work and will cost the tax payer millions per person.

This is going to end in endless exploits and the second it goes from 'hackers got kettle wifi password, island hoped onto machines and stole holiday pics' to ' software kettle button safety thermostat over ridden, child has face melted off through kettle explosion' people are going to start throwing them away faster than they can make waste holes to fill them with..

then again, im being pessimistic I suppose.
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sounds as lame as 'the island' Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
screw that, ill have all the bacon i want tongue.gif

The Island isn't a great film but that picture would fit perfectly in This Perfect Day, which everyone should read to understand the IoT.

I will never allow my kettle to be connected to the internet, what purpose does it serve? I can decide what I want in my fridge myself, and I can set my own alarm. I am not a zombie and don't need a computer to decide these things for me.
Edited by Liranan - 10/19/15 at 4:29pm
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I completely disagree. I see IoT as the future, there is no stopping it.

People are lazy, they want more convenient ways of doing their tasks.

Just imaging if everything in your home had an IP address, was connected to your network and you'd have to do essentially nothing.

First, your alarm is connected to your stereo, which is connected to your calendar, you'd never sleep for too long because the only snooze button is when you're out of bed.

Right, so you're off your bed, the kettle turns on automatically and so do the lights in your apartment.

Your fridge knows what's in there and what isn't expired so it gives you an idea what you could cook and how it will take to prepare each of those meals. However your bowel movements from yesterday (according to your toilet) suggest that you should stay away from the oatmeal.

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You hit the shower, 3 minutes later you're clean, the shower stops to preserve water, also you've got some important meeting in 50 minutes so you've got to hurry up.

You walk out, no need to lock the door since it locks automatically, there is no doorknob, just a little display with eye-scanner/fingerprint-reader etc.

Now that you're gone, your Roomba vacuum goes to action, all other unnecessary electricity is turned off as well as the AC (which turns on exactly 10 minutes before you get home).

This sounds ridicules today but in 10 years this might not be so crazy..

Imagine every one of those companies collects your data and sells them to advertisers. You'll get spammed to death on sleep aid, frozen dinner, dietary supplements, grocery stores, bath soap, shampoo. And when you come home you find your house robbed because there's a security flaw in the smart lock app.

I want convenience as much as anyone, but the security and privacy issues needs to be solved before I get any of these smart appliances.
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The day my home network is hacked through my tea kettle or coffee pot is the day I move into a shack in the middle of the woods and live like the Ewoks on Endor with their simple clothing and simple spears.

I can't handle much in life and I know for a fact this would put me over the edge.
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humans are a weak species... i hope we never make it past the moon. lest the cosmos be burdened with us.
    
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humans are a weak species... i hope we never make it past the moon. lest the cosmos be burdened with us.

Well... That escalated quickly.
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