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Cool story, but there are millions upon millions of router out there in homes that still use WEP because they were made before more secure encryption protocols were available, and home users can't be bothered to fix something that seems to be working.

And that isn't even half of the problem considering that many routers/internet devices just get left without updates to fix any known CVEs or close down the damn backdoors these idiot companies leave. Seagate's My cloud root account anyone?
     
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post #52 of 76
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What the fudge -_-

There are so many bugs / issues in these "smart devices", they are a gold mine for CVE numbers / bug bountys at the moment, I dont get why they are so bad though. Its as if devs have gone "pfff all the security we neded in web apps? Nahhh its a app so we dont need it"
Security is really hard is the simple answer.

Even if you know anything about security it's easy to be flippant about "It's just a kettle! What could happen!?!".... and really there are a lot of developers that don't understand security at all.
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post #53 of 76
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Cool story, but there are millions upon millions of router out there in homes that still use WEP because they were made before more secure encryption protocols were available, and home users can't be bothered to fix something that seems to be working.

Sure and these millions upon millions of routers actually host networks exchanging valuable data. Joe schmo in a trailer park isn't your ideal target lol
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Sure and these millions upon millions of routers actually host networks exchanging valuable data. Joe schmo in a trailer park isn't your ideal target lol

1/4 of enterprise networks still use WEP/WPA.
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1/4 of enterprise networks still use WEP/WPA.

Yup and that equates to "millions upon millions" thumb.gif
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Yup and that equates to "millions upon millions" thumb.gif

"millions upon millions of home users", don't try to twist my words you pathetic excuse for a man. Please leave unless you want a real discussion where you're willing to concede points or admit your wrong instead of trying to create fake drama.
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post #57 of 76
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"millions upon millions of home users", don't try to twist my words you pathetic excuse for a man. Please leave unless you want a real discussion where you're willing to concede points or admit your wrong instead of trying to create fake drama.

Lol rage much? You're the one who cited stats about enterprise networks to "prove" that millions and millions of home networks were vulnerable, which doesn't even make sense, and isn't even true so....

The only drama to be found is in the recycled blog posts you're regurgitating. Routers have been sold for ages with random passwords already preconfigured, ISPs are doing their part too in selling their equipment the same way as well as educating their customers about the importance of properly securing their wireless networks.

You're describing a 5 year old problem that isn't as important as it once was. Just sayin'
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Lol rage much? You're the one who cited stats about enterprise networks to "prove" that millions and millions of home networks were vulnerable, which doesn't even make sense, and isn't even true so....

The only drama to be found is in the recycled blog posts you're regurgitating. Routers have been sold for ages with random passwords already preconfigured, ISPs are doing their part too in selling their equipment the same way as well as educating their customers about the importance of properly securing their wireless networks.

You're describing a 5 year old problem that isn't as important as it once was. Just sayin'

ISPs do very little to educate their customers, instead opting to push their own service calls in order to make profits. It is a very common industry standard. Further, often times you don't need to compromise the router itself, but attached devices. Many of the IoT devices you see out there have very weak security, or multiple vulnerabilities.

Your view of open networks is also probably limited to your very narrow area. Basically the immediate surrounding of your home and places you frequent. Odds are likely you aren't in a position that you see a lot of wireless networks. Many times I have been on top of one of my towers and scanned the surrounding cities. There are so many unsecured networks out there, networks using default credentials, or otherwise have some sort of vulnerability.

There is far more to a network than the password you set on the AP.
    
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The Internet of Things™, everyone... rolleyes.gif
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The Internet of Things™, everyone... rolleyes.gif

I didn't name the crap.
    
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