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It's been 3 years or so since I have really looked into cooling options. I've just been using the stock Intel coolers. However, with my new build, I'm planning on doing a moderate overclock on the CPU and maybe the Graphics Card.

I never liked large Air Coolers because of the size, weight, and noise. The last time I shopped, the Corsair H units were top of the line and I believe the NZXT and Swifttech H220 were on the rise. Closed loops just seemed much simpler, similar in performance for my needs since I'm not aiming for anything extreme, and were covered with insurance in case they leaked or malfunctioned.

In regards to Open Loops, they're attractive to look at but cost far more than the other options and have no coverage should they leak.

What do you guys recommend now? Are the Corsair/NZXT/Swifttech options still fantastic and is one of them better than the rest or have the open loops become more affordable and dependable? (I can't justify paying $500+ for a loop when I can snag an AIO for $100 or so.)

Thanks!
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The Swiftech H220-X and H240-X are hot sellers and will allow for future addition of a graphics card and second radiator.
Edited by WizardontheJob - 10/19/15 at 12:12pm
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I have to agree with wizard. Corsair's and NZXT's offerings are largely the same, and perform well enough, but they're not expandable like Swiftech's in case you want to add a GPU.
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The Swiftech H220-X and 240-X are head and shoulders above any of the CLCs. Aside from expandability, the Swiftech handily outperforms them especially at like noise levels. It is essentially a Bently in a sea of Hondas.
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Originally Posted by Melee View Post


I never liked large Air Coolers because of the size, weight, and noise.

Actually.....top tier air coolers are significantly quieter than CLCs while offering similar performance (for example, the noise ceiling of an NH-D15 is actually lower than the noise floor of any dual fan Corsair unit, and at top fan speeds you are looking at ~25+ dB difference), and aren't any larger - they are just mounted in a different location. Not saying you should go with air, just saying that particular reasoning has some holes. wink.gif
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Most of the die hard air guys will tell you that you can get the same temps on a good air cooler that you can on a $100 AIO. IMO, there are only 2 "semi" AIO's that I would consider if I didn't want to go full custom loop, the H220/240-X and the Predator. Both of these are made to better quality standards than typical AIO's, they are meant for more longevity, and can be expanded if you get the itch.
 
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Most of the die hard air guys will tell you that you can get the same temps on a good air cooler that you can on a $100 AIO. IMO, there are only 2 "semi" AIO's that I would consider if I didn't want to go full custom loop, the H220/240-X and the Predator. Both of these are made to better quality standards than typical AIO's, they are meant for more longevity, and can be expanded if you get the itch.

Actually......I run liquid cooling, so I am not a die hard air guy by any means. But after testing and reviewing just about every AiO and top tier air cooler on the market, I can attest that this is true in the case of the current available CLCs (though not AiO, as the Swiftech and EK are not CLC).

I completely agree with you on the Swiftech and EK pieces. They really are the only ones to consider at this point.
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Actually......I run liquid cooling, so I am not a die hard air guy by any means. But after testing and reviewing just about every AiO and top tier air cooler on the market, I can attest that this is true in the case of the current available CLCs (though not AiO, as the Swiftech and EK are not CLC), though CLCs tend to offer slightly better performance on physically larger CPUs on high voltage OC.

I completely agree with you on the Swiftech and EK pieces. They really are the only ones to consider at this point.
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