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Greetings OC.net, I just built a custom loop for my 5820k, specs are as below

CPU: 5820k @ 4.5ghz ~ 1.29v vcore, Cache @ 3500mhz ~ 1.30v
MOBO: MSI Gaming 7
RAM: Kingston FuryX 2666 CL15 @ Stock

Radiator: Alphacool Nexxos UT60 360MM
PUMP: Phobya DC12-400
Tubing: 1/2" ID Primochill Flex LRT
Res: Alphacool Lighttower AIO
CPU Block: EK Supremacy EVO Acetal Black
Case: Corsair Obsidian 750D
RAD Fans: Coolermaster Sickleflow 120mm - PULL
Fan Orientation: (2x Front 140mm intake, 1x140mm rear intake, 3x120mm top exhaust)
Loop Order: Res -> Pump -> Rad ->CPU Block -> Res.

Problem: My idle temps are mid to high 20's (low 30's depending on day), load temps seem to sit around high 50's/low 60's average with spikes into the high 60's low 70's in Aida64 (my preferred OC Tool, Although in gaming ive never seen them budge 55.)

Question 1: Do this temps seem ok?
Question 2: Would changing pumps yield better temps? if so what about to a mcp655 (Alphacool VPP655)
Question 3: Would changing fans to static pressure optimized fans help much with such a thick rad?
Question 4: Since i am limited to space, should i run the fans in push (Pull air in from top of case) or pull?
Question 5: Is my loop order ok?

Thankyou for your time, im open to any suggestions to improve temps.
post #2 of 24
It would help to know what your Delta T temp is. That's the difference between the temperature of the air entering the rad(s) and the temperature of the water. It'll tell you how efficient your WCing system is. That will tell you if fans or a pump will help.
Edited by billbartuska - 10/19/15 at 11:25am
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Originally Posted by Dar1us View Post

Question 1: Do this temps seem ok?
Question 2: Would changing pumps yield better temps? if so what about to a mcp655 (Alphacool VPP655)
Question 3: Would changing fans to static pressure optimized fans help much with such a thick rad?
Question 4: Since i am limited to space, should i run the fans in push (Pull air in from top of case) or pull?
Question 5: Is my loop order ok?

1. It all really depends on ambient temperatures. But overall those see like respectable numbers considering you setup.
2. Not sure, but my initial though is no. Your setup isn't complex and probably doesn't have many points of flow constriction.
3. DEFINATELY. This is probably your best way of decreasing your temps even further. You want high static pressure fans for radiators and areas where you have to push air through a grill. There are so many to choose from at all price ranges.
4. Consider running your radiator in the base like this. This will allow fresh air to your radiator with out the need for hot case air to feed through it.

5. Loop order does not matter as long as your Res feeds your pump.
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1. Yes
2. No
3. Probably
4. Push intake would be preferable
5. Yes

You might want to switch your rad to intake and the rear fan to exhaust to see if that makes a difference, but whats your GPU?
 
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Originally Posted by billbartuska View Post

It would help to know what your Delta T temp is. That's the difference between the temperature of the air entering the rad(s) and the temperature of the water. It'll tell you how efficient your WCing system is. That will tell you if fans or a pump will help.

ok i wasnt sure what delta meant tongue.gif
how can i find out the delta temps?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Radnad View Post

1. Yes
2. No
3. Probably
4. Push intake would be preferable
5. Yes

You might want to switch your rad to intake and the rear fan to exhaust to see if that makes a difference, but whats your GPU?
switching to a bottom mount rad is out of the question at this point (unless i get a case like the 900D, as the 360mm rad will literally not fit in the bottom frown.giftongue.gif

also my gpu is a Giagbyte Windforce GTX970, overclocked it still doesnt get hotter then 64 on air cooling......

ill switch my fans to intake and the rear fan to exhaust and report back, wouldnt this cause too high of a positive case pressure since it becomes the only exhaust? should i switch my fronts to exhaust aswell?
Edited by Dar1us - 10/19/15 at 7:28pm
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Originally Posted by Dar1us View Post

ok i wasnt sure what delta meant tongue.gif
how can i find out the delta temps?


Difference between 2 different temp points.

Flip your rad fans as intake (intaking air from the outside) and set your rear fan as an exhaust.

See if that makes a temp difference.

You have vent holes in the back of the case. Air will escape there with the help of your exhaust fan in the back.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Radnad View Post

1. Yes
2. No
3. Probably
4. Push intake would be preferable
5. Yes

You might want to switch your rad to intake and the rear fan to exhaust to see if that makes a difference, but whats your GPU?
Quote:
switching to a bottom mount rad is out of the question at this point (unless i get a case like the 900D, as the 360mm rad will literally not fit in the bottom frown.giftongue.gif

also my gpu is a Giagbyte Windforce GTX970, overclocked it still doesnt get hotter then 64 on air cooling......

ill switch my fans to intake and the rear fan to exhaust and report back, wouldnt this cause too high of a positive case pressure since it becomes the only exhaust? should i switch my fronts to exhaust aswell?

I never mentioned switching your rad to the bottom, I was referring to switching your rad fans to intake instead of exhaust. In my experience I have never had "too much" positive pressure, although there may be others that can debate that.
 
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It would help to know what your Delta T temp is. That's the difference between the temperature of the air entering the rad(s) and the temperature of the water. It'll tell you how efficient your WCing system is. That will tell you if fans or a pump will help.
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I never mentioned switching your rad to the bottom, I was referring to switching your rad fans to intake instead of exhaust. In my experience I have never had "too much" positive pressure, although there may be others that can debate that.
my apologies, that was the other dude :s, anyway if switched the fans to intake but temps are about the same (difference is negligble) ill re run the test tonight when it is cooler as thats when i ran the last test... air corsair sp fans anygood?
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No apologies necessary, we're all here help each other. smile.gif

The Corsiar SP's are considered middle of the road in performance, however, if you do a google search you see them used more than any other fan, so that tells you something.
 
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