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post #1681 of 4952
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Originally Posted by BrightShadow View Post

In your picture evidence, you can see that at some point of the benchmark the difference was almost 20fps, even more than the other poster mentioned.

You're talking about max FPS, and that's not really important in this context. For it to matter I'd have to run the benchmark multiple times with ReShade enabled/disabled. Minimum stays almost the same and the impact on average is acceptable, as I said wink.gif
post #1682 of 4952
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Originally Posted by Klocek001 View Post

I tried 60fps/60hz vsync back again today after 3 weeks with Dell just to see the difference, it seemed more like I perceived 45 fps back then when I ran 60/60 vsync. +100 fps + gsync is crazy fast, IDK how I was ever okay with 60,it's got so much more lag and stutter while moving the camera.

I did the same thing when I exchanged my dell monitor for a new one (had to wait for it to be shipped out). The other thing that blew me away was going from 27" back to 24". Such a huge difference. My 24" is also a dell, but ultrasharp with perfect sRGB AND perfect Adobe Gamuts, which is switchable in the OSD. I can see the color banding on that monitor too, its just a bit less obvious, but that "bit" is enough for the mind to easily ignore it. I know that with time my mind will ignore it with this new monitor too, so I am not worried.
post #1683 of 4952
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Originally Posted by yellows View Post

You're talking about max FPS, and that's not really important in this context. For it to matter I'd have to run the benchmark multiple times with ReShade enabled/disabled. Minimum stays almost the same and the impact on average is acceptable, as I said wink.gif

You were quoting someone who was pointing out an FPS loss, and from your own provided evidence, there is an FPS loss. You're implying it doesn't really matter but in real world situations it very well might. That's the problem with basic benchmarking software.
post #1684 of 4952
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Originally Posted by BrightShadow View Post

You were quoting someone who was pointing out an FPS loss, and from your own provided evidence, there is an FPS loss. You're implying it doesn't really matter but in real world situations it very well might. That's the problem with basic benchmarking software.

How many times should I write acceptable performance loss? For me it's not as bad as he claimed and that's probably because he tried to use the entire suite of effects ReShade provides instead of the bare minimum of the color LUT, hence my questions and the screenshot.

Again, I wasn't saying that there is no performance impact, only that it should me minimal. When the benchmark hits intensive parts the LUT's impact is within margin of error (min FPS).
post #1685 of 4952
What's wrong with Dell? They have some of the best support in the market!
post #1686 of 4952
So what is a good monitor with these specs good for gaming and pretty descent for movies as well. Every time i read reviews for a week before i choose a monitor just when it seemed clear Dell was the obvious choice you guys are badgering the hell out of it! I was going with ASUS ROG SWIFT,but no....way to many complaints in the forums and ASUS CS really sucks i hear!!
post #1687 of 4952
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Originally Posted by sub0seals View Post

So what is a good monitor with these specs good for gaming and pretty descent for movies as well. Every time i read reviews for a week before i choose a monitor just when it seemed clear Dell was the obvious choice you guys are badgering the hell out of it! I was going with ASUS ROG SWIFT,but no....way to many complaints in the forums and ASUS CS really sucks i hear!!
Dell is very good for movies IMO, I watch movies from about 2 meters away and sitting a little bit lower than my usual position, the colors are great. Frankly I like it more on the S2716DG than my MX27AQ IPS cause there's no glow and almost no backlight bleed.
I don't think we're badgering the hell out of it,every monitor has its problems, but the ones on this Dell you can live with. Look at other monitor threads and see people send it back 5 times to get a good one. Mine arrived almost impeccable with only very minimal blb in the right bottom corner, but having owned IPS before this is still about 20x better than what I've seen for a long time. There's banding but show me a TN which has none. So far games that show banding are:
-FEAR2
-Max Payne 3 (acceptable)
-GTA 5 (only some)

Games that do not have any or very minimal banding:
-The Witcher 3
-Dying Light
-Metro LL
-Far Cry 3
-Assassin's Creed Syndicate

Haven't had time to test many more, some of them I only played for a few hours to see how they play with g-sync. Some of these games just have poor built in color calibration,you can't correct gamma to your liking. And I'm using sb else's profile, a color calibration device might sort some of this stuff out. I wouldn't take the Swift, it's still TN but it's more expensive and I hear it has even more issues than S2716G. If I was considering any other options than the Dell, they would be either MG279Q (IPS 144hz 1440p, but no g-sync - cost a tiny bit less than S2716DG, you trade g-sync for IPS) or PG279Q. Both are IPS, and Asus QC isn't known for checking for issues thoroughly before packing it up for sale. Of course the #1 gaming monitor IMO is Acer Z35 ATM, but that price tag....rolleyes.gif
Edited by Klocek001 - 1/22/16 at 11:07pm
post #1688 of 4952
Okay, I wanna make this another post so that it doesn't mix up with my previous one. Is it normal to perceive lag on 60Hz after using 144hz? I can see it both in games (even with g-sync) and, that's the most surprising one, on desktop when I'm @60Hz. It gets better when I use slower mouse dpi in games (like I did back when I used 60hz displays), but still I'm very surprised I can see it on mouse cursor on desktop, I've been using 60hz displays for years and now this 144hz just for 3 weeks or so. My adoption to 144hz was quite fast, I've instantly switched to higher dpi and been using it for a few weeks.
Edited by Klocek001 - 1/24/16 at 5:44am
post #1689 of 4952
Depends how sensitive you are. 60 Hz is 1/60 second from one frame to another compared to 144Hz that's close to 10ms difference.
post #1690 of 4952
well, at first I thought there's sth wrong with the settings, then I dropped my desktop to 60hz to 144hz and instantly noticed lag on the cursor, so I thought it might just be how this goes - once you become accustomed to 144hz, then 60hz is gonna feel laggy even though it felt fine while for all my life I was running 60hz displays. This is 84MHz difference.
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