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To sum it up for you wizardbro here are some uncommon pros/cons...
I haven't noticed anything like that myself Klocek, and I've been using g-sync nearly all the time with both of the monitors I have used (im on my second S2716DG). I will try to reproduce what your experiencing tomorrow though and I'll let you know what I find if anything.
thx. my NCP settings, maybe I'm doing sth wrong:

post #1702 of 4656
Generally what you want is v-sync off in games, but on in nVidia control panel when using g-sync. That might be part of the issue your experiencing if your getting over 144hz in the games your playing.
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Generally what you want is v-sync off in games, but on in nVidia control panel when using g-sync. That might be part of the issue your experiencing if your getting over 144hz in the games your playing.
the issue seemed to be RTSS or Afterburner or both. I turned them off and the problem seems completely gone, I might keep an eye on it and do some more testing but it seems like I don't see the line anymore. The game actually feels smoother too, maybe it was RTSS where I set 143 fps limit that made g-sync crap out.
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Glad you figured it out, I do recommend turning on v-sync in your nVidia control panel though for g-sync. I noticed you had it off in your screenshots. This is what nVidia recommends as well. Also I did play one or two games which had a refresh rate setting which maxed at 143, and did not notice the problem in those games.
Edited by BrightShadow - 1/25/16 at 2:50am
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Glad you figured it out, I do recommend turning on v-sync in your nVidia control panel though for g-sync. I noticed you had it off in your screenshots. This is what nVidia recommends as well. Also I did play one or two games which had a refresh rate setting which maxed at 143, and did not notice the problem in those games.
were you using RTSS?
Update: running afterburner alone also seems fine, so it was RTSS. I uninstalled it and gonna listen to your advice and use v-sync in NCP rather than fps limit in rivatuner. I'll keep an eye on it tho, I only did a few minutes of testing, when I have the time to play a few hours I'll be sure if the problem is indeed gone for good.
Edited by Klocek001 - 1/25/16 at 3:00am
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Thanks a lot, that's very helpful!
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To sum it up for you wizardbro here are some uncommon pros/cons... Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Pros:
*low rate of bad pixels/dust (although my first one had something like this only different)
*great viewing angles (horizontally) for a TN
*turns on/off instantly
*internal bezel (this is actually a really good feature)
*doesn't get exceptionally hot
*great pixel size (small)

Cons:
*horrible default gamma
*less than perfect contrast
(turning down the contrast with nvidia allows for more shades of grey)
*requires a computer to get the best look/gamma
*and some games ignore your gamma settings (although might have in game settings)
*darkest shades of grey/color not dark enough
*this creates banding in dark scenes except in games where developers plan for it
*areas that quickly changes from light to dark to light may appear to have vertical lines
(most easily seen with screen shake effects in games at high FPS)


I haven't noticed anything like that myself Klocek, and I've been using g-sync nearly all the time with both of the monitors I have used (im on my second S2716DG). I will try to reproduce what your experiencing tomorrow though and I'll let you know what I find if anything
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Apart from the panel itself, I would add the looks and the build quality as and advantage. I really like it when my rig looks like a very classic and elegant work PC but it's a gaming demon inside.
post #1708 of 4656
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Originally Posted by BrightShadow View Post

To sum it up for you wizardbro here are some uncommon pros/cons...
Pros:
*low rate of bad pixels/dust (although my first one had something like this only different)
*great viewing angles (horizontally) for a TN
*turns on/off instantly
*internal bezel (this is actually a really good feature)
*doesn't get exceptionally hot
*great pixel size (small)

Cons:
*horrible default gamma
*less than perfect contrast
(turning down the contrast with nvidia allows for more shades of grey)
*requires a computer to get the best look/gamma
*and some games ignore your gamma settings (although might have in game settings)
*darkest shades of grey/color not dark enough
*this creates banding in dark scenes except in games where developers plan for it
*areas that quickly changes from light to dark to light may appear to have vertical lines
(most easily seen with screen shake effects in games at high FPS)

I'll add my own to this, since I agree with all you wrote apart from the contrast. I've gotten mine to 891.9:1 with Average ΔE*00 of 0.68 according to dispcalGUI with Munki Display. Though it took a lot of time to do the calibration.

For the cons:
  • about the gamma: if you don't have a good profile this monitor will look like crap even on the desktop
  • incompatibility with MCCS: this is a deal-breaker for automatic calibration using X-Rite's software or any other software that adjusts monitor settings automatically, basically after an automatic calibration the monitor will lose all settings and revert to factory defaults on reboot - I've confirmed it with softMCCS as well
  • G-SYNC can be very unstable, but it happens in all G-SYNC monitors I've used so not really specific to this model
  • anti-glare coating graininess is heavier than ASUS PG279G/Acer XB271HU, on the level of ~2013 Dell IPS, this is visible on light desktop

Pros:
  • after calibration this is the best TN I've seen, with a bit of work it can be calibrated to have very low ΔE with good contrast
  • the panel response times are so fast that ULMB is not really required even in FPS, thus G-SYNC can be used to the fullest
  • gamma and colour shifting from TN can be negated by correct ergonomic monitor position - eye level a the centre of the top edge, it's still noticeable on greens but overall very good for a TN
  • there is no BLB/IPS glow or any similar effect (at least on my sample)
  • well built and looks awesome wink.gif

I picked this over the ASUS and Acer's AHVA models.

Edit: wrong values wink.gif
Edited by yellows - 1/25/16 at 5:44pm
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How did you manage that CR? 991.8:1
Is your white level lower than 120?
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How did you manage that CR? 991.8:1
Is your white level lower than 120?

Yes, it's at 100 cd/m², I don't like bright monitors wink.gif I posted the profile back in this thread.
Edited by yellows - 1/25/16 at 5:59pm
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