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post #1871 of 4655
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Originally Posted by PCM2 View Post

Two things:

1) '3H' is a measure of hardness and does not indicate the haze value of the panel nor indicate how smooth its surface texture is. Even the lightest matte surfaces and many glossy surfaces are 3H.

2) Most modern Dell UltraSharps use a light matte screen surface now. So actually, it is not at all typical of a modern UltraSharp but rather a more grainy affair. smile.gif

On 1) I agree after a bit of research, thanks for correcting me smile.gif

On the second point it depends on how you define a "modern UltraSharp". I have a U2412M sitting side-by-side with this S2716DG and the coating is very similar if not identical wink.gif

Is there a way to measure and quantify haze?
post #1872 of 4655
I have a rather fast-moving interpretation of 'modern'. Anything released in the last few years wink.gif. The U2412M has a significantly grainier screen surface than any UltraSharp currently available. The Full HD models and to a slightly lesser extent 1920 x 1200 are worse in that respect than higher resolution models, but still superior the the S27DG and U2412M by some margin.

Haze value is sometimes specified for particular panels, but it only gives you an indication of the level of diffusion. Screen surfaces have different layering structures and textures regardless of this. You can have some fairly low haze surfaces that look grainy and vice-versa.
Edited by PCM2 - 2/3/16 at 11:09pm
post #1873 of 4655
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Originally Posted by Xypleth View Post

Well the last one I made is quite close (http://cdn.overclock.net/4/42/900x900px-LL-4274415e_20160203_210900_HDR.jpeg), one stop shutter speed lower it looked too dark, and this one looks too bright. This one I showed the very first, looks a bit too dark from what I can see http://cdn.overclock.net/b/b8/900x900px-LL-b8a4ef6f_20160203_011643_HDR.jpeg

If that is from eye level then it's not a good example unfortunately.

For future reference people should follow this and make their own decision whether a monitor is worth RMA'ing

post #1874 of 4655
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Originally Posted by Peanuts4 View Post

So I've had 2 of these monitors now, I don't know if it's the coating or the type of light they use, or my eyes. But does anyone else when staring at their screen and maybe a background does it feel like this monitor like has some sort of flicker to it? Not an interrupting on and off flicker just like a light flicker. I still am having a hard time getting used to this monitor and it's been like a month or two now.
I've had 2 now and I see the blb blue light at the bottom on both. The more tan pressure marks on the sides look terrible, look back at the pictures I posted of mine I called them butt marks but were way smaller. I honestly find these monitors very hard to look at, I've spen a lot of time with these monitors now and I dunno something about how white looks. I like G-sync, I tested it off and just used ULMB, and couldn't tell the difference. With both off gaming isn't is accurate unfortunately. If it was the same I would outright return this. Honestly I think we're getting gouged by the manufacturers with soso quality panels and manufacturing with expensive G-sync chips.

Anyone looking at this thread for gaming especially FPS reasons I would say find yourself a 1080p 24" monitor with G-sync. You'll save money and you wont have constant eye strain. If anything that mimics G-sync/Freesync on the horizon I can only hope.
I work most of a time or play on dark environment, I had eye strain after few hours on white background (word, browser) until, i use yellow's ICC and set brightness to 20 and contrast to 50. The other option was to enable ulmb.
With a excessive lighting (brightness >= 30.), my monitor affected my eyes and causing headache.
For gaming, it was just amazing, but ONLY for that !
I don t know the reason after some games or reboot, i must set icc profile again, that's annoying.
Also, i bought this dell to avoid any issue, maybe i will give a try on acer xb271hu.
Edited by ToKuten - 2/4/16 at 3:00am
post #1875 of 4655
@yellows

Try creating a 3d lut from displaycal but change the rendering intent and 3d lut size.

Perceptual gives the best colours and in darker areas clouds and light haze has less banding with 32x32x32 3d lut size whilst

Absolute colorimetric white point scaling (default) had less vivid colours. These are just my observations.

Like to hear yours.

@Mads since you like trying profiles I will make this available to you, just send me a PM so you can try it out.
Edited by majnu - 2/4/16 at 6:21am
post #1876 of 4655
I'm still debating getting this monitor. I currently have the Dell U2715H which is a beautiful IPS monitor. Do you notice a big difference in color quality on this monitor since its only a 6 bit TN panel vs a full 8 bit IPS panel?
post #1877 of 4655
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Originally Posted by falcon26 View Post

I'm still debating getting this monitor. I currently have the Dell U2715H which is a beautiful IPS monitor. Do you notice a big difference in color quality on this monitor since its only a 6 bit TN panel vs a full 8 bit IPS panel?

This is a 16.7m (8-bit) panel
post #1878 of 4655
OH nice. I didn't know that TN panels even came with 8 bit. Well then I may be getting this with my tax refund. Really on the fence about it. The U2715H I have now is beautiful for colors and great at gaming at 60HZ. Just not sure if 144HZ is worth it. I really only play 1 or 2 games. BF4 and some H1Z1 oh and Skyrim.....
Edited by falcon26 - 2/4/16 at 7:03am
post #1879 of 4655
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Originally Posted by falcon26 View Post

OH nice. I didn't know that TN panels even came with 8 bit. Well then I may be getting this with my tax refund.....

The bit depth makes very little difference in practice. Gets rid of a bit of dithering, reduces banding somewhat in certain situations but really has limited effect on the overall 'TN' characteristics. The viewing angle weaknesses, grainier matte screen surface and poorer default image setup (correctable by ICC profile) are much more noticeable than this. You will not have the same level of clarity nor consistent richness of colours that you enjoy on the U2715H. But this is something you need to weigh up against the vastly superior responsiveness and gaming-oriented features like G-SYNC on the Dell. You may well enjoy the S2716DG even after accounting for these weaknesses, so you might as well give it a try. smile.gif
post #1880 of 4655
Wait so the anti glare coating on the 144HZ monitor is more than on the U2715H? One thing I hate is when there is too much anti glare coating. I thought TN panels really didn't use that.
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