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This thread i loooooong .. .. as much as i read as much as i get confused ......lachen.gif

Shoud i get the damn monitor or not kookoo.gif

Get it if you want almost no BLB. Don't get it if you hate pixel inversion.
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This thread i loooooong .. .. as much as i read as much as i get confused ......lachen.gif

Shoud i get the damn monitor or not kookoo.gif

As with any monitor that's very subjective. Some people love it, some like it and others dislike it. And as with any monitor, it has its plus points and minus points. It is very fast (although not free from overshoot, as usual for 144Hz TN models) and offers nice extras like ULMB and G-SYNC. It's also free from 'IPS glow' (obviously) and tends to have superior black uniformity and general quality control compared to the IPS-type alternatives. It's also somewhat cheaper.

On the negative side, it does need an ICC profile or manual adjustments at the GPU level to adjust for the lower than desirable gamma. And of course it uses a TN panel - a good one, but still susceptible to the usual colour consistency issues that come with the territory. And there is that fairly grainy matte screen surface which some dislike. Plus the aforementioned 'pixel inversion' (or interlace pattern artifacts as I like to call them) during motion, which some users notice and find bothersome. As with the overshoot, many don't actually mind them.

So it's something you need to weigh up for yourself. I plan on fully reviewing this model in the not too distant future, too, so that will add some further food for thought no doubt.
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Originally Posted by PCM2 View Post

As with any monitor that's very subjective. Some people love it, some like it and others dislike it. And as with any monitor, it has its plus points and minus points. It is very fast (although not free from overshoot, as usual for 144Hz TN models) and offers nice extras like ULMB and G-SYNC. It's also free from 'IPS glow' (obviously) and tends to have superior black uniformity and general quality control compared to the IPS-type alternatives. It's also somewhat cheaper.

On the negative side, it does need an ICC profile or manual adjustments at the GPU level to adjust for the lower than desirable gamma. And of course it uses a TN panel - a good one, but still susceptible to the usual colour consistency issues that come with the territory. And there is that fairly grainy matte screen surface which some dislike. Plus the aforementioned 'pixel inversion' (or interlace pattern artifacts as I like to call them) during motion, which some users notice and find bothersome. As with the overshoot, many don't actually mind them.

So it's something you need to weigh up for yourself. I plan on fully reviewing this model in the not too distant future, too, so that will add some further food for thought no doubt.

Appreciate the reply and wish you be kind and share your review when you do it.

Well, for me what is so difficult, is am coming from 1080, TN, 60 HZ monitor, for me at least it is gona be a big upgrade, and with all the crap quality of the (1440p, 144hz, 1ms, Gsync) available in the market, it just make you very cautious in selecting and investing money.

The more you see reviews the more difficult it gets.

That said, drove me to think in the Freesync alternative peer options available, since at least you would pay less money, with losing the Gsync, since i own an NVIDAI, and i am fine in loosing the Gsync and pay less, but then the Question is, how will the monitor perform with the Freesync Off when your game frame rate dips below 100 lets say.
Edited by BrjSan - 2/9/16 at 3:17am
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This thread i loooooong .. .. as much as i read as much as i get confused ......lachen.gif

Shoud i get the damn monitor or not kookoo.gif
My first experience (as a noob smile.gif ) on this monitor, i love it definitely for the clean design, the build quality (stunning edge-to-edge gameplay), dead pixel warranty and Best professional support/RMA policy .
Thanks to adjustment capabilities. i could watch in my bed, a dark movie without to see any glow but it was a bit grainy.(certainly picture quality issue)
Then, Problems i have with it, it s the brightness on white page (matte coating issue?), got eye strain and headache when i was reading this forum or working on word with TFT central icc profiles. Colour banding, it does shows up on some games.
About colour, you need tweaking it and you could find a lot of help on this thread, many users shared their own ICC profile/setting (think every panel is different...) . Colour shift is going to be noticeable on colour background not in games. I had some slight backlight bleeding in the bottom right corner and dead pixels.

Prices is quite reasonable for 1440p TN , G-sync, ULMB, 144hz,HDMI & Display port. Dell make actually playing your games through a pleasant experience. (No IPS glow in darker games)
This Monitor is aimed at gamers so do watch out if that is not your priority. I would appreciate if i could surfing the web and do some word, excel with same setting. I didn t a find a way to save several profile on osd....
Edited by ToKuten - 2/9/16 at 3:50am
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This thread i loooooong .. .. as much as i read as much as i get confused ......lachen.gif

Shoud i get the damn monitor or not kookoo.gif

This was my impression of the monitor. As to whether you should buy it then you have to weigh up the pros and cons of every monitor that falls within your price bracket and accept that panels have imperfections and limitations.
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I have this and will list Pros, Cons and Subjective areas which can be seen either way followed by a Summary. Read the tft central review though. I assume that you know the traits of IPS vs TN so I won't cover this.

Pros
- At time of writing the most affordable 1440p 144hz Gsync TN monitor (Note that Viewsonic will release their version soon)
- Decent build quality
- Matt bezel
- Dell warranty is the best and have great service should anything go wrong
- Thin outer bezel
- Various ways to adjust, tilt, swivel etc

Cons
- Anti glare coating is grainy only really noticeable if you have your monitor 2 inches in front of you.
- Banding. However this depends on source material but due to the panel type and fact that it is only 8 bit it can be apparent even with an elevated gamma of 2.2
- Simplistic menu and no options to change gamma
- Not edge to edge. There is an inner bezel which adds around 1-2cm to the outer bezel

Subjective
- Buttons are mushy and hard to press
- Pressing buttons causes the screen to wobble
- lack of Gaming features & asthetics which you find on the ROG swift. Eg. Gsync light indicators, Aimbot feature, illumination.

Summary
- Has a gamma of 1.8-1.9 out of the box which makes colours look washed out and the default .icc profile on the CD is highly saturated
- Using a profile which can be found on TFT central or within the thread will greatly help as an elevated 2.2 gamma is more pleasing. However, due to panel variations it is advisable to buy your own colorimeter. I recommend the Xrite Colormunki.
- I created a 3D LUT with games that support Reshade and it uses the Desktop profile in games without resetting the gamma table it does help games look better.
- For a TN the colours are decent (around 850 contrast ratio and 94% sRGB colour space). Black luminocity are not bad too (0.14)
- Panel uniformity, backlight bleed, dust specs is all a gamble still as there are people who have had some and some who have not.
- I personally paid under £400 for this monitor and whilst I still think it is expensive I don't think it is worth £400 + as it is a TN panel at the end of the day. These can be had for £390 if you know where to look.
- Some people have had pixel inversion issues, there is someone called Daryl on Youtube who has posted his issue. I ran the same tests as him and also posted my results here and it doesn't display the symptoms he had.
- Using smooth scroll on any browser causes fuzzy lines. I was going to RMA my monitor thinking it was faulty but it was smooth scroll that caused it.
- Gsync is as good as people say. Very smooth with low frame time variance. No hitching.
- I don't notice any difference from 120hz going to 144hz.
- Increase in Desktop real estate is nice but icons and text will become much smaller.
- You need a decent GPU to utalize the monitor to it's "full" potential, I have a 980ti.
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Credit to hardware canucks for the photo

As you can see the overshoot is abysmal for this screen, and theres no way around it because you can only set overdrive to normal or fast with fast producing even worse results. This amount of overshoot should not be present on a fast TN panel.

I'm pretty sure they set the overdrive to "fast" on the S2716DG for this picture, and normal should look much better. See TFTCentral's review for Normal setting.
Also, I don't see the problem with not having an overdrive off option, because you'll just get a lot of regular ghosting instead of a little inverse ghosting.
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Thanks all for the feed.

May be need to wait until Viewsonic releases their 1440p peer. (which should be promising and well manufactured - at least they should learn from others faults wink.gif)
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sorry for my really bad english :x
Hey !
I just bought the monitor and I'm really happy with it. I have no "yellow bleed", no dead or stuck pixel, but here's two problems :

- Only when I check forums, Tweetdeck, etc, when i'm smooth scrolling the page, I have some "text afterglow", that's not really annoying but enough so that we can notice. Can that be fixed ?

- I have a problem when i want to apply an ICC profile : when I load it in the color management, nothing change. Please help me biggrin.gif ?

Oh, and some guys said the black isn't black, here's my solution > go to nvidia panel, "change resolution", and apply "full" to the "dynamic output" !


really, i'm so sorry for my really bad english, i'm french
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sorry for my really bad english :x
- I have a problem when i want to apply an ICC profile : when I load it in the color management, nothing change. Please help me biggrin.gif ?
http://www.laszlopusztai.net/2009/08/23/stop-losing-display-calibration-with-windows-7/
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That only seems to work until a game changes the profile and Windows does not seem to notice it happening and correct it. You would have to reload after each such change. Color Profile Keeper and Color Sustainer seem to be much better at seeing a change and fighting them off(but some games still win.).
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