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Yes, many games to bypass color profiles. Playing in windowed full screen/ fake full screen or boarderless window may help reduce this issue with some games. Color Profile Keeper or Color Sustainer are 3rd party tools that can try to enforce color profiles too.

2 external links to those programs.
http://goebish.free.fr/cpk/
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/color-sustainer-download.html
Do I need to disable/remove the icc profile in Windows Display Properties before using these apps?
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The point is weather you want a good black or not. In my case I use 0% brigtness for windows normal use, and raise to 10% for gaming (sometimes 20%, it depends on the game and the hour of the day). Anything above 20% make black too gray in my opinion. I have test with 2 different monitors and it is just the same level of brightness, so my monitor is not in worse than others.

Theres is something curious about this panel, because at 0% brightness I can distinguish every dark gray in the usual callibration test patterns you can find on the internet..., something that does not happen with other monitors. The only difference is that raising brighness makes black = gray (and of course light colors more eyestrain).

Even in games I have to usually lower the gamma A LOT when showing the picture tests (the tipical that tell you to adjust the brigtness to the point that you have to see one of the two images and not see the other). And again, my monitor is well callibrated, I can distinguish in every color test those colors close to black and white, and I feel confortable with the feeling when normally using it.
Hi.
What's your monitor brightness/contrast/color settings? any icc applied?
I do crave for deep black. Should I use ULMB and forget about G-Sync to improve the black?
Edited by poinguan - 7/4/16 at 6:24pm
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Do I need to disable/remove the icc profile in Windows Display Properties before using these apps?
These programs will override windows own profiles in most cases.

On one system i never removed the Windows profile and it loads on startup and then the 3rd party software takes over.
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Hi.
What's your monitor brightness/contrast/color settings? any icc applied?
I do crave for deep black. Should I use ULMB and forget about G-Sync to improve the black?


I downloaded profiles from https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/dell-s2716dg/

I toggle very often the two icc profiles, one for reading (lower blue) and the other for gaming.

And, as suggested in that site I set colors in the OSD monitoir as follows (maybe some minor changes can be made depending on the monitor unit):
R=100 %
G=98 %
B= 98 %

And, as I said in previous post, digital vibrance (Nvidia Control Panel) reduced to 30% to get rid of cartoon exagerated colors. But you may prefer saturated colors.

The main concern for me is not to adjust colors, but to get a better black, and that is why I lower brightness to 0%. Not only better black, but more natural picture, no eye strain, and also (less important) less power consumption. But this is my preferences, maybe you prefer very vivid colors and very vivid white.
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You're saying 200fps is possible on a 144hz panel?
I would guess it just tosses any that are not fully able to be displayed. I think Nvidia released a feature similar to this on the new 10xx cards.
I have GTX1070 powering my S2716DG. In Doom, when staring at a blank wall, I can get 200fps.
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If you do not get page tearing it is tossing frames that can not be fully displayed.

The windows desktop manager(With aero on Windows Vista/7 and all the time on 8/8.1/10) does the same thing when playing games in Windowed mode or fake full screen/boarderless window/maximized window mode.

poinguan, Can you check your control panel, You should have a feature that can do that(no page tear and low input delay compared to vsync) even in full screen games on any monitor. They are calling it Fast Sync.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpUX8ZNkn2U
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Hi.
What's your monitor brightness/contrast/color settings? any icc applied?
I do crave for deep black. Should I use ULMB and forget about G-Sync to improve the black?


I downloaded profiles from https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/dell-s2716dg/

I toggle very often the two icc profiles, one for reading (lower blue) and the other for gaming.

And, as suggested in that site I set colors in the OSD monitoir as follows (maybe some minor changes can be made depending on the monitor unit):
R=100 %
G=98 %
B= 98 %

And, as I said in previous post, digital vibrance (Nvidia Control Panel) reduced to 30% to get rid of cartoon exagerated colors. But you may prefer saturated colors.

The main concern for me is not to adjust colors, but to get a better black, and that is why I lower brightness to 0%. Not only better black, but more natural picture, no eye strain, and also (less important) less power consumption. But this is my preferences, maybe you prefer very vivid colors and very vivid white.
Thanks. I tried the LBL ... wow so yellow.
Edited by poinguan - 7/5/16 at 9:03am
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Noticed a weird bug every time I exit DOOM: The screen will flicker with vertical lines when I scroll a webpage. It will be normal after a pc restart. This bug didn't occur on my previous Dell 2209WA monitor. Is this a G-Sync issue?

The same issue as reported in geforce forum: https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/939358/geforce-1000-series/gtx-1080-flickering-issue/1/

Update: Bug fixed with driver 368.69. Yay.
Edited by poinguan - 7/7/16 at 8:42pm
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I've upgraded to the Dell S2716DG from an old 1080p 60hz IPS monitor. The gaming features are wonderful, but the colors are a tad more muted, the text isn't as crisp, and the picture quality just doesn't pop like it does on IPS.

I would never recommend buying this monitor for the MSRP of $800 because it just isn't competitive at that price, but what about the sale price of $500 or less that it's often available from on Best Buy, Newegg, Amazon etc. (It's $480 on best buy right now)? The cheapest G-SYNC 1440p 144hz ips display is the Acer Predator XB271HU, which at $730 is 35-40% more expensive. Is the slightly better picture quality really worth the $250 markup, especially since Acer's panels are reputed to have even more rampant quality control issues than Dell's? If you're a gamer who also does color-sensitive work like photo or graphics editing then you don't have a choice, but the rest of us have to weigh the benefits of having an IPS display versus having an extra $250 in our pocket.
Edited by k155 - 7/6/16 at 1:54pm
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I paid for mine 500€, and that is a reasonable price in my opinion. This monitor is not perfect, but it has many things that may be usefull for some people (I am one of them). Specially if you like playing smooth (g-sync) without a super powerfull graphic card, of course to play using 120hz/144hz (but a lot of monitors have that feature today's), and if you like to play in 3D using Nvidia 3D Vision glasses (I am one of the lovers of this tech). The resolution is perfect for this size, and if you do not have power to run 2K games you can play lowering the resolution because it scales down perfecty.

So, for me, it is a great product, even though the image can be improved (specially the colors) and even though it is a TN panel with low view angles (anyway, I use it always looking in front). I would buy this monitor again in the same price without thinking it twice, I can not see any other monitor giving me all these features together. The aesthetic is also good enough for my taste, very discrect and elegant.

Of course it can be improved, but I think becaming monitors are not going to support 3D Vision, as no ISP does (at least for the moment), so I am pretty sure this is going to be my loved monitor for years, until the hopely arrival of OLED tech to the monitor jungle, and I hope with 3D support.
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