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Really?, my brightness is at 11 and thats too much i feel... i guess i'm more sensitive to brightness.

I have my BenQ at 10 as well. Anything higher is too aggressive after hours of use. Seeing as my new panel has an AG coating, there is no need to push the brightness really high in my opinion.
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post #292 of 5195
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Sensationalism. One could easily note that IPS glow and back-light bleed are just as bad if not worse than gamma/color shift from improper placement of a TN monitor. Also forgetting the better motion clarity with the TN panel with it's faster pixels.

Just look how horrible that 8-bit TN panel is on the left versus the IPS on the right:


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That image shows nothing. You are comparing two monitors but you did not post what settings has been used for each panel... I can easily to make it opposite. I had at least 3 IPS panels and all looked much better than one you showed here. I had both 278 and 279 and XB270 and image quality is night and day. Every TN panel has visible gama/color shifts and it looks just bad for serious work. If you want only play, then quality TN is better choice. And don't forget for pixel inversion.

But everybody can make his own decision. I'm not going persuade that IPS is better than TN. For me it's much better and I said why. Glow depends on quality and slight silverfish glow is not a problem at all. If you have yellow, then yes, it's a problem and you should return.
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Natural?? Errrr, NO. Why do you think all graphics professionals and photographers use IPS monitors?? Sure, you can push IPS further making it unrealistically saturated, but you can do the same to TN, just to a lesser extent.
Exactly, once you get to 27", it's game over for TN regards uniformity and gamma shift... no way to avoid it. At 24" and below, it's far less of an issue. And yes, not ALL IPS monitors will have glow... I've had several where it was virtually imperceptible. No excuse for BLB though, and as you say that will be poor assembly and QC. These AUO panels are just rubbish and a sorry excuse for IPS.

This. I wonder if these people ever had an IPS panel when saying this bs. Like how many people try to defend TN technology. Yes, they have no glow and slightly faster response time, but it ends here.

Glow... according latest observation and confirmation from PG users, the yellow glow is a FAULT. Glow is SILVERSIH. If the glow is yellow, there is some bleed causing this and it's ready for replacement. Whoever accept this, accepts a faulty display. There trash AUO panels makes only a bad name to IPS technology. They are able to produce good one, there are many users who have minimal silverfish glow, unfortunately the change to get one is very low because companies like Asus, Acer accept these faulty panels. I think that's the reason why Dell decided to go with TN panels instead on IPS. TN have far less problems but it does not mean they are better.
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Thanks for pictures guys and further comments on new Dell are appreciated!

Dell is my solid alternative if my third PG279Q will fail me like my previous 2.

Any news on TFT review?
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Thanks for pictures guys and further comments on new Dell are appreciated!

Dell is my solid alternative if my third PG279Q will fail me like my previous 2.

Any news on TFT review?

I have this monitor, still testing it out and comparing to my X34, but what i will say, go with Dell i have it and no no no issues. I will post more comparison hopefuly this week, just supper busy, but what i will say, i'm sending my X34 back and Dell is better then PG278Q. I would definitely recommend Dell.

For colours, out of the box Dell Gamma is really low colours are washed out. But go to nVidia and change Gamma to 60 i think and then Vibrance to 60. But i have calibrated it with Colormunki Brightens 45, Contrast 70 + Vibrance 60. And they are really close with X34

Right now i wish Dell would create 21:9 + 34" + 144hz + IPS + G-sync + X34 AG coating + Low Input Lag = and they have a winner.
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This. I wonder if these people ever had an IPS panel when saying this bs. Like how many people try to defend TN technology. Yes, they have no glow and slightly faster response time, but it ends here.

Glow... according latest observation and confirmation from PG users, the yellow glow is a FAULT. Glow is SILVERSIH. If the glow is yellow, there is some bleed causing this and it's ready for replacement. Whoever accept this, accepts a faulty display. There trash AUO panels makes only a bad name to IPS technology. They are able to produce good one, there are many users who have minimal silverfish glow, unfortunately the change to get one is very low because companies like Asus, Acer accept these faulty panels. I think that's the reason why Dell decided to go with TN panels instead on IPS. TN have far less problems but it does not mean they are better.

where is the information coming from on what color glow is? im not aware that glow is either blue or yellow but if it shifts due to viewing angle, it's ips glow and if it is present at all angles then its backlight bleed. Edge lit displays have backlight bleed inherently, as to when it's a fault or not is subjective, glow is also inherent to the tech and again is subjective, though I imagine there is a technical screen percentage of coverage affected that would define defective panels
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where is the information coming from on what color glow is? im not aware that glow is either blue or yellow but if it shifts due to viewing angle, it's ips glow and if it is present at all angles then its backlight bleed. Edge lit displays have backlight bleed inherently, as to when it's a fault or not is subjective, glow is also inherent to the tech and again is subjective, though I imagine there is a technical screen percentage of coverage affected that would define defective panels

From us people who already owned PGs and returned them. I can cofirm that normal, means flawless glow on PG279Q is whiteish/silverish in all corners. Left side can have a little bit of blueish tint to it, but generally perfect screen has silverish glow in terms of colors.

Yellowish and goldish are faults and proofed of damanged panel. If your panel has yellow glow in corners, near edges (bleeding) or you right of left side of screen at angles has goldish glow istead of silverish/blueish- it is faulty panel and should be RMA'ed.

Also you can take a look at pictures posted by TFT central review and you can see that PG is whiteish/silverish glow. I can cofirm it as my last one was like that apart it got bleeding spot at left edge, which meant it's going back for another (final chance) replacement.
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Thanks for pictures guys and further comments on new Dell are appreciated!

Dell is my solid alternative if my third PG279Q will fail me like my previous 2.

Any news on TFT review?

If you buy it I would like to know your opinion on gama/color shift. People here don't mention it at all as it seems this panel is free of this issue.
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I have this monitor, still testing it out and comparing to my X34, but what i will say, go with Dell i have it and no no no issues. I will post more comparison hopefuly this week, just supper busy, but what i will say, i'm sending my X34 back and Dell is better then PG278Q. I would definitely recommend Dell.

For colours, out of the box Dell Gamma is really low colours are washed out. But go to nVidia and change Gamma to 60 i think and then Vibrance to 60. But i have calibrated it with Colormunki Brightens 45, Contrast 70 + Vibrance 60. And they are really close with X34

Right now i wish Dell would create 21:9 + 34" + 144hz + IPS + G-sync + X34 AG coating + Low Input Lag = and they have a winner.

In which aspects Dell is better than 278 ?? What do you say on uniformity (luminance, color shift) typical for TN panels ?
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where is the information coming from on what color glow is? im not aware that glow is either blue or yellow but if it shifts due to viewing angle, it's ips glow and if it is present at all angles then its backlight bleed. Edge lit displays have backlight bleed inherently, as to when it's a fault or not is subjective, glow is also inherent to the tech and again is subjective, though I imagine there is a technical screen percentage of coverage affected that would define defective panels

Because some users here reported only a silverfish glow so why there should be yellow one ? only if there is some bleed from backlight. I never seen yellowish glow. I have some on my LG and is also silverish. this is much more less distracting than yellow one. Edge lit displays have backlight bleed inherently ?? This is BS, I have absolutely no bleed in in my left top and bottom corners... And no glow as well so what is inherit ? It's just assembly fault and poor QC...
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i like how you guys are panel experts after making a few personal purchases. IPS glow can be yellow and edgelit displays have backlight bleed because the backlights are right next to the bezel. This is why edge lit displays suffer from decreased contrast ratio (your black looks grey). TN and IPS both often suffer from backlight bleed and whether or not its a fault is up to the manufacturers specifications.
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i like how you guys are panel experts after making a few personal purchases. IPS glow can be yellow and edgelit displays have backlight bleed because the backlights are right next to the bezel. This is why edge lit displays suffer from decreased contrast ratio (your black looks grey). TN and IPS both often suffer from backlight bleed and whether or not its a fault is up to the manufacturers specifications.

I will tell you it this way- if you have whitish/silverish glow on dark/black background IT JUST makes black more grey. It kind of blends in in MUCH LESS INVASIVE WAY. Whats more- any dark colors near that kind of glow looks kind of too bright or washed up. But it does only that.

Yellowish and goldish glow looks like somebody is pissing on your monitor and your dark colors during gaming. Now that is kind of distracting during gaming, right? Try to play Dark Souls with sublte silverish/whiteish glow in corners vs yellow....YELLOW. On black!

But if you are fine with yellow glow- cool. My last PG has ZERO yellow tint in corners and it looked SUPERB good in dark games. First one was yellow on corner and it was horrible.

So yea, take that as less "expert" way of putting how does it feel when you gaming. Brightning your dark colors vs pissing on your black colors.

I had yellow glow PG and silverish one now, and I can assure you in terms of PG- whiteish/silverish is correct one. Also bleeding on PG is always yellow.
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