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FYI, this video explains how Fast-Sync complments with G-Sync.
http://youtu.be/WpUX8ZNkn2U
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FYI, this video explains how Fast-Sync complments with G-Sync.
http://youtu.be/WpUX8ZNkn2U

Not currently on a gsync monitor, but when I tried fast sync, I got tons of stutter when the framerate went above my refresh rate. Had to cap my fps in order for it to feel good and even then, I experienced some weird stutter even though my fps wasn't fluctuating at all. Maybe it will be better once it matures a bit.

edit: Also, you shouldn't want to use any other sync tech alongside gsync anyway. Gsync is going to be better in every way and you don't want it to ever be deactivated - which is why you cap your fps below your max refresh.
Edited by Ickz - 8/24/16 at 5:04pm
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edit: Also, you shouldn't want to use any other sync tech alongside gsync anyway. Gsync is going to be better in every way and you don't want it to ever be deactivated - which is why you cap your fps below your max refresh.
I thought some prefer ULMB especially when you aren't going under your monitor's refresh rate.
Then you wouldnt want gsync at all.
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Yeah I wasn't really talking about ulmb - just gsync/vsync/fast sync.
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I now own this monitor and the Acer XB271HU. Having a little trouble deciding which to keep.

I originally felt the Dell was washed out during World of Warcraft. I was excited to side-by-side it by the Acer. The Acer is a bit prettier during World of Warcraft, however what's bugging me is the lack of quality in the whites, particularly noticed while using Google Chrome. It has a muddy tint. Like it's lacking "white vibrance". The Dell is quite a lot crisper.

I've used suggested ICC's and calibrations for both.

One thing I noticed was that the Acer actually performed the UFO test quite a lot better than the Dell, which was surprising. The Dell was more stuttery.

I'm having quite a lot of trouble deciding which monitor to keep. Is it normal that the whites of the TN would be better?

I'm really just looking for a monitor that pops while gaming, and then is Macbook Retina-like while browsing the internet. Is this reasonable? Or will it require having multiple profiles for each use? (I don't think the Del offers profiles, right?)

Thanks a bunch for any guidance with this one.
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I now own this monitor and the Acer XB271HU. Having a little trouble deciding which to keep.

I originally felt the Dell was washed out during World of Warcraft. I was excited to side-by-side it by the Acer. The Acer is a bit prettier during World of Warcraft, however what's bugging me is the lack of quality in the whites, particularly noticed while using Google Chrome. It has a muddy tint. Like it's lacking "white vibrance". The Dell is quite a lot crisper.

I've used suggested ICC's and calibrations for both.

One thing I noticed was that the Acer actually performed the UFO test quite a lot better than the Dell, which was surprising. The Dell was more stuttery.

I'm having quite a lot of trouble deciding which monitor to keep. Is it normal that the whites of the TN would be better?

I'm really just looking for a monitor that pops while gaming, and then is Macbook Retina-like while browsing the internet. Is this reasonable? Or will it require having multiple profiles for each use? (I don't think the Del offers profiles, right?)

Thanks a bunch for any guidance with this one.

If you're buying a monitor for over $500 or $700 with the Acer you owe it to yourself to buy a colorimeter for $150 like this guy: https://www.amazon.com/X-Rite-CMUNDIS-ColorMunki-Display/dp/B0055MBQOM

That way you can get the perfect calibration suited for your monitor specifically and only then can you truly compare both monitors. The Acer is much better looking out of the box than the Dell mostly because the Dell has a very low 1.9 gamma out of the box making things look more washed out especially blacks. When both are calibrated they look very similar from a head on viewing position. The Acer will have the Dell beat in contrast which will give it a slightly punchier picture, but otherwise they're very close in image quality.

I currently have the XB270HU which is more or less the same as the XB271HU. I got one with no dead pixels and virtually no bleed and very little glow, and the only place it suffers is in uniformity and its most noticeable on whites. So i know exactly what problem you're having, and to be frank it bothers me too. The center of the screen is perfect 6500k color temperature, the top third of the screen is more like 6700-6800K color temp so its cooler, and then the lower left quadrant is 6300k. The coolness of 6800k isnt as much of a bother as that 6300k which is very noticeable.

These 144hz IPS monitors have been known to have these tinting issues and its not something that you can really solve with tweaking, the panel just sucks. The 144hz 1440p TN monitors on the other hand are much better in the quality department but they're not immune to problems either. I've had two S2716DGs, the first one had a buzzing power supply or something and i returned it, the second one had the weird saw like pattern defect along the bottom edge so that one went back too. Instead of trying to another Dell i got this Acer because it was only $50 more so i figured it was worth it for the IPS. Provided the display was perfect then yes it would definitely be worth that extra bit, but its not and like yourself i find it annoying in web browsing seeing that part of my screen not be a nice white as the rest of the screen. Thankfully in gaming its never an issue, but i obviously dont use the monitor for just gaming, its for everything.

The other thing about these IPS monitors is the pixel responsiveness gets progressively worse the lower the refresh rate goes. At 144hz they're perfectly acceptable, but with how Gsync or Freesync for that matter works is while your FPS is fluctuating the monitors refresh is also changing so if you are getting 60 fps the monitor is at 60hz, if its 88 fps its 88hz and so on. The Dell's pixel responsiveness barely changes between 60hz and 144hz, its like a 1ms difference at most so when you're using gsync the monitor will always feel very responsive. The Acer's pixel responsiveness becomes far worse at 60hz compared to 144hz and at least to me its noticeable which is another strike against it.

I'm fixing to return mine soon and try another S2716DG and hopefully get lucky with it. The only real downside with the Dell is its TN and has worse viewing angles, but im mostly looking at it head on and when i do lean to one side or the other its not enough to ruin the image so essentially its not a problem. I would recommend you do the same, keep the Dell if there are no defects and return the Acer.
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Yes. The temps are still high and the idle is still at 1506mHZ even if I drop it down to 60Hz. I think I am going to reset my computer because I think something must be messed up in the drivers somewhere...

There must be something running that requires the video card to clock up. maybe something in the browser or desktop theming. try a driver upgrade, lately a driver update had interrupt request handler latency problem listed as fixed, too. cant hurt to update the driver for this rather new hardware.

With win 7 and aero disabled my 1070 clocks at 278 Hz in desktop mode and monitor set to 144 Hz.
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There must be something running that requires the video card to clock up. maybe something in the browser or desktop theming. try a driver upgrade, lately a driver update had interrupt request handler latency problem listed as fixed, too. cant hurt to update the driver for this rather new hardware.

With win 7 and aero disabled my 1070 clocks at 278 Hz in desktop mode and monitor set to 144 Hz.

He did fix it now. But what if it was set to always maximum performance and maximum refresh rate in NVCP for brower
Could this perhaps activate 3d clocks?
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I now own this monitor and the Acer XB271HU. Having a little trouble deciding which to keep.

I originally felt the Dell was washed out during World of Warcraft. I was excited to side-by-side it by the Acer. The Acer is a bit prettier during World of Warcraft, however what's bugging me is the lack of quality in the whites, particularly noticed while using Google Chrome. It has a muddy tint. Like it's lacking "white vibrance". The Dell is quite a lot crisper.

I've used suggested ICC's and calibrations for both.

One thing I noticed was that the Acer actually performed the UFO test quite a lot better than the Dell, which was surprising. The Dell was more stuttery.

I'm having quite a lot of trouble deciding which monitor to keep. Is it normal that the whites of the TN would be better?

I'm really just looking for a monitor that pops while gaming, and then is Macbook Retina-like while browsing the internet. Is this reasonable? Or will it require having multiple profiles for each use? (I don't think the Del offers profiles, right?)

Thanks a bunch for any guidance with this one.

Cool you have both. I also owned a lot of the newer gaming monitors but never at the same time. I felt the Acer had the best colors of the 4 i tried (pg278q, pg279q, xb270hu, s2716dg) But it was clearly not as fast as the pg278q and the s2716dg. At least that was my understanding.

You say you feel the dell is faster in the ufo test. I had tried quite a few times that the ufo browser test screws up. But if i completly shutdown the browser. Then it goes back to normal. Also try other browsers than one. Some browsers are not good for the ufo test.
Also which revision is your dell? A01 A02 A03?
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He did fix it now. But what if it was set to always maximum performance and maximum refresh rate in NVCP for brower
Could this perhaps activate 3d clocks?
I need to start looking into this as I was playing with Afterburner and got it up to 2126, but out of game it seems to just sit at something like 1535 when idle now.
I vaguely recall Gaming App and maybe Gpuz showing 500 a few times but not since I started playing with afterburner.
I tried closing AB, launching gaming app and setting to silent, and still stayed at 1500 and fan speed around 40%.
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