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Originally Posted by misiak View Post

You know, some people use monitors not only for games smile.gif But I agree, you will not notice gama/color shift in games but in desktop it is painful. I never said it has bad colors. I said it has almost as good color as my IPS panel. What is problem for me is shifting and poor angles. And because I use monitor also for work (50:50) TN is indeed not for me.

You mean glossy frame or glossy screen ?
Yes, it seems like a pixel inversion frown.gif

Well if you want the ultimate all in one for both work and play then yes you are correct TN panels is a no go. You could always use a dual monitor setup though with IPS for work, TN for play and the Swift makes a good monitor for play. The screen itself is not glossy, it is a very grainy matte that destroys image quality so that's why I chose not to buy a Swift. Otherwise if it had a glossy screen or at least very light matte like the XB270HU I would have bought one for gaming.
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post #322 of 5435
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OK, I didn't mean crap as a whole. I meant more gama/color shift is crap. I said for TN it has pretty good image but there is problem with this and pixel inversion as well. Viewing angles are just bad...

XB270HU.... there are users who have no bleed or minimal glow. Then this panel is far better than TN. Problem is that it is problem to get one. But TN can also suffer from BLB. There is no glow, that's truth but it has other issues. But when it comes to image quality you can't deny that IPS is better than IPS. Every panel has its benefits but for me a little glow or bleed which is visible only when lights are off and only if the image is black is more acceptable than gama/color shift all bigger TN screens have.

And those pictures you posted, my XB270HU does not look like that one on the right side all... so it is not fair comparison... Once again, yes, TN Swift has a great image but only in games. For more serious work in desktop it's not very good.

No bleed or minimal glow? That's subjective testing for you. I've had four HU's including the three in the picture I posted. That's a pretty decent sample size. They all had quite significant bleed and glow. The black uniformity of this new 8-bit TN panel blows those IPS panel's out of the water.

Not sure what "serious work in desktop" is, but then again if I were doing that I would get a monitor focused on that and not these monitors that sacrifice a lot to be the fasted gaming displays.
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Can you guys watch this and see if you think you can see vertical lines when scrolling up and down on a screen? Its just started doing it but I don't know why.

You probably have to watch on youtube and HQ to see it.

That is pixel inversion. That is a byproduct of the panel being so fast.

To test, go here:

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/inversion.php#invpattern

1. Make sure your browser is set to NO zoom (100%). If it's anything other, the test won't work.
2. Click arrow right once, it should say "Current: 1".
3. Minimize the tab so that you can move the grey box around. Note the vertical lines/pixel inversion.

This panel is identical to the TN Swift, so I assume the pixel inversion and AR film is identical. Only thing that Dell have changed is the stand/case/OSD and maybe some overdrive attributes. My Dell will be here in three days so I'll do a direct A-B comparison and keep the better one.


From Mark Rejhon:

Inversion issues (http://www.testufo.com/inversion -- try the various Inversion tests) are common on many monitors, especially 120Hz monitors. It has happened on the EIZO FG2421 and several other models.

Also try this one in Full Screen mode - http://www.testufo.com/#test=inversion& ... ity2&ppf=5 .... As you adjust the width of the browser window in this full screen version, you may see the location of the color flashing change, as the standard inversion pattern changes. This can cause the disappearance of green color that reappears in a different type of fine inversion pattern; I've seen inversion-pattern-switching behavior occuring on the older ASUS VG278H in the Inversion Uniformity Test on TestUFO, when resizing the window.

It has been an issue that has bedeviled LCDs for a long time (even IPS panels to a lesser extent). It showed up on the BENQ XL2411T, XL2420Z, ASUS VG248QE, EIZO FG2421. However, it did appear that certain monitor models has more intense inversion artifacts. I cannot comment yet on details on the ROG before the review release date, however, I wanted to chime in that inversion artifacts tend to be normal, while some displays may have it more intense inversion artifacts than average.

Most gaming displays have pixel inversion.
Edited by CallsignVega - 11/9/15 at 6:33pm
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well its still better then the swift i can wait mine comes in the morning sometime no more koren ips that cant hold its resultion anymore.
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Oh bummer!

Its something I noticed last night and now I cant stop noticing it. I saw it again when playing BO3 too. The vertical lines actually expand across the search bar at the top of the facebook page during scrolling when examining the video close up.

Yes I have it set to 144hz.

So its not actually a 'fault'? Its fairly distracting. Anything I can do to stop it / help reduce it?

Its not something I noticed when using my BENQ 2420T 1080p 120hz TN Panel.
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Edited by Darylrese - 11/10/15 at 1:03am
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It's sad, my "gaming" monitor - Samsung 2233RZ doesn't have this problem. Gaming IPS has flaws and poor quality, TN have pixel inversion. I don't know what to choose! :/
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Oh bummer!

Its something I noticed last night and now I cant stop noticing it. I saw it again when playing BO3 too. The vertical lines actually expand across the search bar at the top of the facebook page during scrolling when examining the video close up.

Yes I have it set to 144hz.

So its not actually a 'fault'? Its fairly distracting. Anything I can do to stop it / help reduce it?

Its not something I noticed when using my BENQ 2420T 1080p 120hz TN Panel.
frown.gif

Try to switch to 120Hz, it is still there ?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7FLEAdvDEU

New video from youtube, beautiful colors as for me!
Edited by Piospi - 11/10/15 at 2:16am
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I just thought we have a winner here and now this frown.gif
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Can you guys watch this and see if you think you can see vertical lines when scrolling up and down on a screen? Its just started doing it but I don't know why.

You probably have to watch on youtube and HQ to see it.

What mode is that 1ms or 3ms?
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Not sure, didn't think you could change the ms rating.

I did try 120hz and I believe it was the same but will do some testing to night and let you guys know the outcome for sure.

This test on my DELL shows vertical lines across the entire screen...taskbar and everything included but on my monitor at work, it has horrible flashing colours but no vertical lines. My work monitor is only 60hz though.

Can other Dell owners run this test and let me know if you see the vertical lines?

http://www.testufo.com/#test=inversion&pattern=uniformity2&ppf=5
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Does the 2716 include a DisplayPort cable or will I need to purchase one seperately?
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