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AMD need something big to get them out the hole they dug for themselves..

Nvidia know that too, hopefully that means both will put out the best they can do at competitive prices. thumb.gif

The rumors have gone from the next-gen GPU's being released late 2016, without a huge performance increase, to anywhere between Q1 and Q3 2016 and being absolute monsters. biggrin.gif

Man, this could actually turn out to be a bit of a special time for GPU's.
AMD and Nvidia are most likely spending all resources on improving the 16 nm FinFET product lines since it was known 28 nm would be around for a while. 28 nm has maxed out its efficiency as a node so best choice is to focus attention where improvements are guaranteed to make the biggest difference.
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I don't think Cyro is arguing that a 780ti beats a 290X. A 290X beats a 970 at 1080p by a small margin most of the time, but gets CRUSHED in games like WoW due to the driver issue with DX11... THAT'S the point...
This.

I could not understand why AMD refuse to fix their driver CPU overhead & conveniently chose to drop DX9 support when they add fps limiter.
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This.

I could not understand why AMD refuse to fix their driver CPU overhead & conveniently chose to drop DX9 support when they add fps limiter.
Take in mind that AMD are having a few bad days so the software development is probably spending most of their resources on the latest APIs and the latest games, otherwise sales would plummet further.
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The rumors have gone from the next-gen GPU's being released late 2016, without a huge performance increase, to anywhere between Q1 and Q3 2016 and being absolute monsters. biggrin.gif

I dont see how they couldnt be monsters compared to what we have now. The transistor size is taking something like an 70-80% shrink in size plus more energy efficiency process on top. We should see huge amounts of resources added to the dies this next gen.
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I dont see how they couldnt be monsters compared to what we have now. The transistor size is taking something like an 70-80% shrink in size plus more energy efficiency process on top. We should see huge amounts of resources added to the dies this next gen.
Considering the extra years stuck on 28 nm gave Nvidia and AMD so much time to keep developing whatever they had for the shrink to 16 nm FinFET they better bring the best performance increase a node shrink has had in a long time.
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Yet another ... "AMD is awesome, they are going to cut the power requirements in half ... nevermind what I said when I was raving about the R9 290X and said that power didn't matter." thread. rolleyes.gif
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The problem for AMD/Nvidia is that they're already near the 600 mm^2 size, and according to pretty much all the info we've got from 16nm is that it's expensive and won't drop the cost per transistor. So while you could double everything and make that 18 billion transistor chip, it would cost twice to make, and there would be no room to expand, even if they could actually pull such a chip straight out of the gate. A much more likely scenario is they'll drop the die size considerably and it's just another minor increase in terms of performance, and they'll just harp on the power savings and how a smaller die still beats the previous gen big chip. And of course they'll still price it slightly higher than before.
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If the new Artic island flagship can provide 40% boost over Fury X with lower power bracket than R9 Nano. They will do fine, provided they dont charge the flagship above half a grand.
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Oh, Lisa Su stated this? Like when she said Fury X will be an awesome overclocker? biggrin.gif
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Oh, Lisa Su stated this? Like when she said Fury X will be an awesome overclocker? biggrin.gif

it is an awesome overclocker considering its such a hyper-dense GPU (4096shaders!).
i mean, imagine if you could OC a 12core CPU to 4.5Ghz, that would be amazing by itself.

though that was until they decided to give it a base clock at it's limits.
it probably was meant to have a low base clock at the beginning, but it's performance was severely lacking.
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