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I started to panic guys when I read this article! All is good! Wrestling is safe from this madness. Let us not forget that WWE is the only real sport that matters thumb.gif. It is the crucible, the pinnacle, nay, the mother of all sports so as long as Cena and the guys stay clean, we have something to look up too! biggrin.gif
 
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There's quite a few making $5-15k anually who did quit their day jobs on that list. The ones making very little are mostly doing so in a team house with a dozen other guys and food+electricity effectively paid for via team contract (but very little salary) as they wouldn't be able to live otherwise.

You don't "go to work" as a progamer and come home to some house you bought, feed your family etc. It's more of a way of life than a job - and it's one that's usually taken up temporarily by people in their teens to early 20's. The smart ones (like stephano) hit it big and then move on to study

Yes and having all your expenses paid for you means you are being subsidized, therefore making $5-15k annually does not promote any sort of increased motivation to make more money due to the fact that your expenses are paid for. Meaning, while they haven't quit their day job, their lives are no different than living with mommy and daddy since all their important expenses are payed for. So they sit around and play video games all day long while still earning 5-15k a year. Sounds like quite a lifestyle a teenager would adore.

Nevertheless, these individuals are not actually making a living off of this lifestyle. As you put it, it's more of a way of life than a job. Exactly, it's not a job. They aren't able to support themselves or a family on such a wager. Therefore as said previously, the people who are actually making a living on it are able to support themselves well. $30-50,000 a year is quite a comfortable life to live, especially if you are a bachelor. Even with a 20-25k annual wage, as a bachelor you are still doing pretty well. The point here is not that there are individuals who live in some gaming frat house and have all their expenses paid for wherein they only make 5-15k a year. The point is that the lowest paid ACTUAL pro gamers still make around 30-40,000 a year on average. Which is quite a comfortable wage to life, especially if you are on your own. There are plenty of people with degrees that come out of college that don't even make $15 an hour, yet there are pro gamers who make more than that and it is even more than a handful of individuals based on the amount of people listed on these earnings websites.
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You offered no analysis or insist into the conversation.... most be how you have nearly 4,000 posts.

@BiG StroOnZ - take your "cheeky" jabs elsewhere.

Cyro999 has 9000 posts because he's a huge member of the community and contributes every day.

As for these video game players, I could never make video games my career. I play video games once in a while but I could never do it day in and day out.
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The point here is not that there are individuals who live in some gaming frat house and have all their expenses paid for wherein they only make 5-15k a year. The point is that the lowest paid ACTUAL pro gamers still make around 30-40,000 a year on average.

Tune in to GSL or Proleague some day - most of the players are "frat house" guys. The majority of the pro scene is what you would not call "pro gamers".
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Cyro999 has 9000 posts because he's a huge member of the community and contributes every day.

As for these video game players, I could never make video games my career. I play video games once in a while but I could never do it day in and day out.

Mistook the 9 for a 4...
Edited by Madog - 10/19/15 at 11:03pm
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Do you realize that you just disted the kid you were trying to support?

How is saying something positive about a member a dis?
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Money move the world, if money can change politician, why cant a it change a mere gamer? rolleyes.gif
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Tune in to GSL or Proleague some day - most of the players are "frat house" guys. The majority of the pro scene is what you would not call "pro gamers".

In your world, professionial gamers are nerds who live in their mother's basement or kids making 5K a year living with multiple people. Did i get that right?
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In your world, professionial gamers are nerds who live in their mother's basement or kids making 5K a year living with multiple people. Did i get that right?

It has nothing to do with "my world", it's a reality for much of the Korean starcraft 2 scene.

Take it from Totalbiscuit (who ran a korean team at the time) - 9:35 in this video.


I am not the one saying it in a derogatory way; it's a pretty cool part of korean culture. Esports as a whole are more valid there but it's not a lucrative industry for the majority of competitors
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Do you realize that you just disted the kid you were trying to support?
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How is saying something positive about a member a dis?

I'd like to know, too (and thanks btw~)
Edited by Cyro999 - 10/19/15 at 11:14pm
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@BiG StroOnZ - take your "cheeky" jabs elsewhere.

Be more specific about what you are referring to, that's what the quote function is for. Then I can properly decide how to reply to you. thumb.gif
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Tune in to GSL or Proleague some day - most of the players are "frat house" guys. The majority of the pro scene is what you would not call "pro gamers".

What is the average age for these people that you speak of?
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