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Being skilled at your game, or practicing the game for many hours, doesn't actually make the "job" any more difficult or any more in line with the average person's soul crushing labor/menial tasks to profit ratios.

You can be on your feet all day, balancing 5 platters on each arm, getting spat at by entitled patrons for $7.25 and hour, or $80 an hour clicking some buttons on your ergonomic mouse, playing a game that you already play for fun in your spare time, but getting paid for it because you are doing it "professionally".

At least professional "real" sports players actually perform some impressive physical feats and have to put a lot of very not fun training and exercise into it to achieve those goals. Not that they deserve the money they get either, doing literally nothing for society other than inspiring bar fights, stadium riots, and unrealistic expectations among children.


In other words, if you worked in garbage disposal really enjoy putting together puzzles in your spare time, and someone offered you $1000 to put a puzzle together on TV, would it suddenly become an incredibly difficult task? Would you pass that offer up and keep doing your job tossing people's trash into a truck instead?

I think you have an extremely flawed view on competitive video gaming. Do you think that they literally just play for fun and get paid for it? It takes thousands of hours of dedicated practice to become good enough to get on these professional teams. That's why they get paid for it. It doesn't matter that they previously did it for fun. I know many people that took a hobby they did in their spare time and turned it into their living. Things like doing car stereos, building computers, painting, playing music, and carpentry.

If it was so easy, do you not think more people would be jumping on the "professional video gaming career path"?

"doing literally nothing for society"

Entertainment doesn't do anything for society?
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I think you have an extremely flawed view on competitive video gaming. Do you think that they literally just play for fun and get paid for it? It takes thousands of hours of dedicated practice to become good enough to get on these professional teams. That's why they get paid for it. It doesn't matter that they previously did it for fun. I know many people that took a hobby they did in their spare time and turned it into their living. Things like doing car stereos, building computers, painting, playing music, and carpentry.

If it was so easy, do you not think more people would be jumping on the "professional video gaming career path"?

"doing literally nothing for society"

Entertainment doesn't do anything for society?

Depends on the type of entertainment.
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Entertainment doesn't do anything for society?

Depends on the type of entertainment.
If it pays, someone's entertained.

If it pays greatly, a lot of people are entertained. The market dictates how relevant entertainment is.
    
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If it pays, someone's entertained.

If it pays greatly, a lot of people are entertained. The market dictates how relevant entertainment is.

While thats true that doesnt mean it has any contribution to society. (Dont mean gaming right now)

This now is purely imo. I dont see much value to watch CSGO for example while I love playing it. I hate playing SC2 but love watching it. Thats because imho in CS theres just so much one can do on one map (long, short, b, stalk w.e) but in SC theres almost an endless combination you could accomplish what gives it much more entertainment value.
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While thats true that doesnt mean it has any contribution to society.
The definition of "contribution to society" is highly subjective.
    
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The definition of "contribution to society" is highly subjective.

Like I said, I didnt talk about gaming there so let me ask you this.

Do you really see any contribution to society in reality shows (entertainment after all) where "people" like Kardashians grow out from? Killing braincells doesnt count as contribution.
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So, almost like every other job out there?
If every other job requires you to practice nearly day and night and having to basically give up a portion of your life. Then yes.

Some of you should do some research to see how the average professional in SC2 lives. You would be surprised.

Also, about the whole professional debate earlier.
The second you do something as your job/profession you are considered a professional
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If every other job requires you to practice nearly day and night and having to basically give up a portion of your life. Then yes.

Some of you should do some research to see how the average professional in SC2 lives. You would be surprised.

Also, about the whole professional debate earlier.
The second you do something as your job/profession you are considered a professional

If you actually want to have an decent career then yes, it all applies.

People who work for their career are a small portion but so are pro gamers thumb.gif
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Like I said, I didnt talk about gaming there so let me ask you this.

Do you really see any contribution to society in reality shows (entertainment after all) where "people" like Kardashians grow out from? Killing braincells doesnt count as contribution.
Apoptosis is more beneficial than necrosis. Rotting causes inflammation thereby facilitated demise is indeed a contribution for housekeeping reasons.
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If you actually want to have an decent career then yes, it all applies.

People who work for their career are a small portion but so are pro gamers thumb.gif

Well yea a small part is pro gamers.

But the part sacrificing part of their lives is the majority of those, at least when talking about Korean SC2 gamers which the topic was about. Sure once a while you get geniuses like Flash or Life which have the ability to still go to school while being the top of the world but these are insanely rare cases.

Again, i doubt that a "decent career" requires you to live in a small apartment with 10-20 people having the same job as you and work almost nonstop from morning to night.
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