From the temps Skylake gets delidded, I'd say screw the 10nm for 4 cores for now
What temps, exactly? You mean super good, or bad (a lot of people seem to think that they're bad as they are not soldered)
A message for people in general who think so or are not entirely up to date
Skylake is around 60c with load that takes 4770k's to 90c, both undelidded. I actually wrote this earlier, totally unscientific but approximate numbers:
Delidded Haswell/DC: 70c
Delidded Skylake: 60c
We've actually had a temperature drop every die shrink since i started following tech, but the Ivy bridge desktop TIM situation was really messed up.
From 32nm to 22nm: If you compare Sandy to delidded ivy, the ivy had better temps. If you compare Sandy-E to Ivy-E, the Ivy-E had better temps (both were soldered). Laptop was also an advancement.
From 22nm to 14nm: Obvious improvement. Switched CPU out, undelidded to undelidded and temps are down 25c. Even vs Devil's Canyon which had improved package, temperatures are obviously lower
The 4770k was the peak of bad stuff happening - the TIM situation wasn't fixed at all, power consumption maybe even rose a bit at load vs Ivy Bridge (as it was faster, but not die shrunk) and then some of the existing heat was moved from the motherboard to the die because of the IVR. Now we have a die shrink, IVR gone again and TIM improved, things seem to be great. Not perfect, but great.Edited by Cyro999 - 10/21/15 at 6:02pm