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post #21 of 86
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Originally Posted by kl6mk6 View Post

Every time you say Prime95 I cringe. I used to use it exclusively, but too many people have recommended against using it. It's even been called a "heat vampire." If you read the Haswell and Devils Canion forums they recommend x264 or realbench. I like OCCT. It probably isn't your main problem, but I would use a different program for stressing.

I'm still thinking that your 212 isn't making good contact, or you are using too much or not enough TIM. What kind of TIM are you using BTW??

Hey buddy,

Okay lets not talk about Prime95 anymore.

I just received my new i7 4790k AND my Hyper Evo 212 ( did not have it yet) AND i received my GELID GC-Extreme.

As soon as i get off from work ( in 3 hours ).

I'm going to document everything and see what happens.

I'm not going to use the stock cooler at all.
post #22 of 86
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Undervolting would do nothing if under load the motherboard over volts itself again automatically.

Also, 4.4ghz turbo is not recommended on the stock heatsink. I mean the 212 evo is itself basically only rated for 4.4ghz on a 4790k, 4.6ghz if you're pushing it. You're definitely applying more volts to get the 4.4ghz, because you're not getting 4.4 at stock volts, let alone under volts.


I'm not understanding what you are trying to say.

How can the motherboard overvolt itself if i specifically undervolt it myself?

Is the motherboard part of skynet?

Jokes aside.

How do i stop the motherboard from overvolting when the voltages are on manual and i put a limit on it.

Either way if you look at my previous post.

I just received my gear.

I'm going to put the 212 in with the new cpu and the paste.
Ill see how it runs. If it does run really smooth, then i will OC it to 4.6

If it doesnt run below 70 degrees max load at 4.4 (stock) with the 212 and the paste... Then i'm going to lap the IHS with 500 - 2000 grid paper and delid it and put it in the mobo glueless with the 212 pressured on it + the GELID GC-extreme directly on the DIE (212 will be on IHS not the die).
Edited by cmddata - 10/21/15 at 5:56am
post #23 of 86
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I'm not understanding what you are trying to say.

How can the motherboard overvolt itself if i specifically undervolt it myself?

Is the motherboard part of skynet?

Jokes aside.

How do i stop the motherboard from overvolting when the voltages are on manual and i put a limit on it.

Either way if you look at my previous post.

I just received my gear.

I'm going to put the 212 in with the new cpu and the paste.
Ill see how it runs. If it does run really cool, then i will OC it to 4.6

If it doesnt run below 70 degrees max load at 4.4 (stock) with the 212 and the paste... Then i'm going to lap the IHS with 500 - 2000 grid paper and delid it and put it in the mobo glueless with the 212 pressured on it + the GELID GC-extreme directly on the DIE (212 will be on IHS not the die).
post #24 of 86
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I'm not understanding what you are trying to say.

How can the motherboard overvolt itself if i specifically undervolt it myself?

Is the motherboard part of skynet?

Jokes aside.

How do i stop the motherboard from overvolting when the voltages are on manual and i put a limit on it.

Either way if you look at my previous post.

I just received my gear.

I'm going to put the 212 in with the new cpu and the paste.
Ill see how it runs. If it does run really smooth, then i will OC it to 4.6

If it doesnt run below 70 degrees max load at 4.4 (stock) with the 212 and the paste... Then i'm going to lap the IHS with 500 - 2000 grid paper and delid it and put it in the mobo glueless with the 212 pressured on it + the GELID GC-extreme directly on the DIE (212 will be on IHS not the die).
Usually you will find those settings in the "overclock" or "cpu settings" section of the BIOS. I haven't used a Gigabyte board before, but most are just about the same in regards of where certain settings are. You should disable the settings "EIST", "Intel Speed Step", and "Intel Turbo Boost". Also, you can set the CPU vcore to a standard fixed voltage of about 1.2.
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post #25 of 86
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So i'm just finished setting everything up.(thermal , cpu , 212)

Here are some screenshots of a open case minute or 2 of OCCT:






And here is litterally 2 seconds of SMALL FFT PRIME 95 (instant from 30 degrees to 100 degrees)


Well i'm not doing that again.

Cpu was really cool running the witcher 3.

Any comments on those voltages ?
Watt?
All 4 cores running at turbo with stock bios settings?


I want to make the CPU get arround 4.6 / 7 on all 4 cores.

If you guys have some comments on what you have seen here.

Ill read them and come back with screen shots from the bios.

Best regards,

CMD
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Also here is 2 minutes of XTU
post #27 of 86
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Also here is 2 minutes of XTU
Odd, it seems that it's running at only 3.19 GHz (at least in idle).
Also, it seems that you have core clock ratio spread disabled or something. When in turbo mode, Cores 1 and two should be x44, then 3 is x43 and 4 is x42.
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post #28 of 86
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Odd, it seems that it's running at only 3.19 GHz (at least in idle).
Also, it seems that you have core clock ratio spread disabled or something. When in turbo mode, Cores 1 and two should be x44, then 3 is x43 and 4 is x42.

Yeah i know right! but its running turbo on all 4 cores.. by itself.

And in idle it fluxuates from 800 mhz to 4.4
post #29 of 86
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Here is some bios shots..

Any advice?




post #30 of 86
I can't believe that your mobo is sending out 1.272v to your cpu in bios and 1.3v while stressing. I can hit 4.8GHz at those voltages. Manually set your vcore to 1.05v an see if it will boot. If it boots, try to stress. If it blue screens set it to 1.1v, if that fails try 1.15v and if that fails try 1.2v. You shouldn't have to get much higher than that for 44x.

Edit: ~216 W under load is crazy, play with your vcore and that should come down a lot. As a comparison, I'm hitting ~120W under stress.
Edited by kl6mk6 - 10/21/15 at 12:16pm
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