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Hey guys,

Im fairly new to this stuff, but I was wondering if this psu was good enough. The only access to parts I have are from bestbuy. I have a Dell Optiplex 7010 with i7. I dont plan on overclocking or anything. Its either that or I can take it back and get a thermalcare 430W psu.

Thanks,
Shawn
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It's never good to power a computer with a low-quality PSU like this, but if you have absolutely no choice then I guess you have absolutely no choice. You will probably have problems - just prepare for that possibility. That Thermaltake PSU probably isn't any better:

 

http://www.overclock.net/t/652549/on-thermaltake-psus

 

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Thermaltake PurePower (TR2) 430W NP

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This is an old ATX power supply where the manufacturer added a 24-pin motherboard connector, SATA power cables and a PCI Express auxiliary power cable to make it compatible with computers available today. Simply updating the cables doesn’t make this power supply an updated product.
...
The main problem with this power supply is that it can’t deliver its labeled power. It is, in fact, a 350 W power supply.
...
You could buy it as if it were a 350 W unit, but when we pulled 355 W from this power supply noise level was touching the maximum admissible limit and efficiency was at 69.6%. With other load patterns the maximum efficiency we saw was 76.9%.

Our conclusion is pretty simple: don’t buy this power supply.

- http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/332/9

 

Is there any way that you can invest in a better PSU?

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Hey guys,

Im fairly new to this stuff, but I was wondering if this psu was good enough. The only access to parts I have are from bestbuy. I have a Dell Optiplex 7010 with i7. I dont plan on overclocking or anything. Its either that or I can take it back and get a thermalcare 430W psu.

Thanks,
Shawn

Never heard about Insignia, so I'll assume (maybe/probably wrongly) that it's a no-name brand... if you can find the OEM for that PS and it's a good one, it would probably be OK... but I wouldn't go with it, a Seasonic or any other good OEM's (Superflower, delta, to name a few) manufactured power supply would be better... (you have to check the OEM, not the supplier)
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Would it be better if I just bought an insigna 520w psu? I really just want to make sure my computer doesn't self destruct. I can also get an Apevia 700w psu, an antec 450w psu, a coolmax 600w psu, or a cooler master 450w psu.

Thanks for all the help guys, I extremely appreciate it
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Would it be better if I just bought an insigna 520w psu? I really just want to make sure my computer doesn't self destruct. I can also get an Apevia 700w psu, an antec 450w psu, a coolmax 600w psu, or a cooler master 450w psu.

Thanks for all the help guys, I extremely appreciate it

 

No because the kind of power that these types of PSUs deliver is very unstable and very inaccurate (otherwise known as "high ripple" and "loose voltage regulation"). It just opens the doors for all kinds of problems either right away or sometime down the road, and it's also hard on your computer as well which can shorten its life.

 

Apevia's PSUs are just as bad.

 

The Antec VP450 is the "best" one of the bunch. If that's the best that you can get, then get it.

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post #6 of 14
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Would it be better if I just bought an insigna 520w psu? I really just want to make sure my computer doesn't self destruct. I can also get an Apevia 700w psu, an antec 450w psu, a coolmax 600w psu, or a cooler master 450w psu.

Thanks for all the help guys, I extremely appreciate it

As TwoCables previously posted, I'd stay far from no-name brands... Antec and Coolermaster are usually good, Coolermaster has a few PSU's that are not good, although they SEEM to be getting better on the low cost front (not sure about that), but Antec usually have some pretty good ones (although I had an HCP1200W, built by Delta (OEM), die on me after a couple of years), but you have to check for the exact model that you want / can buy. Having a really limited power supply menu here in Brazil, I've learned to check for everything (ripple, filtering, PFC, stability, crossloading...) before commiting to a buy, but PSU's aren't a simple component of your PC... I'd compare them to the heart of a PC, actually. It supplies the juice with which all your other components will work from. I'd say you should check sites like jonnyguru.com, the newer anandtech PSU reviews and some threads here (I'd start from here: http://www.overclock.net/t/715889/phaedrus-psu-articles) to get a little more insight before commiting to a buy!
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If anyone can find a reliable psu from here http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/category/power-supplies/20380.aspx thats ~$100 or less, you would be my favorite person in the whole world
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If anyone can find a reliable psu from here http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/category/power-supplies/20380.aspx thats ~$100 or less, you would be my favorite person in the whole world

 

I kinda wish it didn't have to be Best Buy because their prices are always way too high. :/

 

The Antec is still the best one, even though it's just barely good enough to be recommended. At least it's not like way below that safe line like the others. It's like, just above it.

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As TwoCables previously posted, I'd stay far from no-name brands... Antec and Coolermaster are usually good, Coolermaster has a few PSU's that are not good, although they SEEM to be getting better on the low cost front (not sure about that), but Antec usually have some pretty good ones (although I had an HCP1200W, built by Delta (OEM), die on me after a couple of years), but you have to check for the exact model that you want / can buy. Having a really limited power supply menu here in Brazil, I've learned to check for everything (ripple, filtering, PFC, stability, crossloading...) before commiting to a buy, but PSU's aren't a simple component of your PC... I'd compare them to the heart of a PC, actually. It supplies the juice with which all your other components will work from. I'd say you should check sites like jonnyguru.com, the newer anandtech PSU reviews and some threads here (I'd start from here: http://www.overclock.net/t/715889/phaedrus-psu-articles) to get a little more insight before commiting to a buy!
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It seems as though Antec makes decent PSUs, so I will go with their 450w unit from best buy :3

Good choice or nah?
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It seems as though Antec makes decent PSUs, so I will go with their 450w unit from best buy :3

Good choice or nah?

 

The Antec VP450 is normally a PSU that I would never recommend to anyone. However, even so, it's still safe to recommend in extreme situations like this where the budget is just not going to allow for a better PSU to be purchased. The other PSUs that you could buy from Best Buy for under $100 should be avoided at all costs. A part of the problem here is that Best Buy's prices are the worst buys. heh

 

Now, what I said here does not apply to all of Antec's PSUs. Within each brand is a wide range of quality, each model's quality being determined by the actual PSU that was used to make it.

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