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I don't know that many coolers on the market well; the h5a is 140mm and the h7 is a smaller heatsink with 120mm fan from what i can tell now
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Welp everything seems to be decided. The final build products are updated in my original post. I've decided to stay with the Hyper 212 because it's either that or an AIO for me. I don't plan on overclocking the build for a while anyway since at stock it gives good enough performance.

Thanks to everyone who helped me out! Your contribution is greatly appreciated! +REP for everyone involved.
Edited by myresolution_72 - 10/21/15 at 12:10pm
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This while time I thought something like that belonged in the Build Logs Lol. Thanks for clarifying! thumb.gif
Would 550W be enough power for this build though? I know the 390 is power hungry.

 

Oh it's plenty!

 

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/powercolor_radeon_r9_390_pcs_8gb_review,8.html

 

The only problem with this page is, they didn't show the details like they did on this page:

 

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/radeon_r9_290x_review_benchmarks,10.html

 

As you can see, the R9 290X only pulled 4W more by itself, so let's use those details instead and pretend that they are for the R9 390. Here we go:

 

With one R9 390 under full load in their system, their PSU pulled 396W from the wall outlet. If I assume that their PSU was 90% efficient while pulling 396W from the wall, then that would mean that their computer pulled 356W out of the PSU. If I add about 150W for overclocking the 6600K, then that makes the computer pulling 506W out of the PSU. Your power consumption while gaming though would be lower, riding about 450-475W which would be easy for Cooler Master V550.

 

There would be nothing wrong with getting a 650-850W PSU though, except you'd be spending more money. Well, there's the 750W EVGA B2, which is a surprisingly good unit:

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-110b20750vr

 

It's $59.99 after NCIX's $30 mail-in rebate!

 

Now that I have posted my reply, I will read the ~30 replies or so just to see if there's anything that I missed.

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If I add about 150W for overclocking the 6600K

That's too much wink.gif

Darkwizzie recorded power numbers; his total system power draw from the wall with regular 100% CPU loads was only about 155w at 1.4vcore - only a fraction of that was even from the CPU, and yet another fraction of that due to added voltage and clock speeds from overclocking. They're 14nm!
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Does this mean leave the CX600M? After rebate the Cooler Master V550 is only $5 more so if it's a better route I don't mind.
What about a RM650?
So the BX100 is $69.99 for 120GB while the OCZ ARC 100 is $59.99 for 240GB after mail in rebate. The write speed is significantly higher on the ARC 100 vs BX100 and it's cheaper than the Samsung EVO. Would this be a solid choice?

 

The CX600M is junk in comparison to the V550. Its price is also WAY too high for the kind of PSU that it is. The difference should be way more than just $5.

 

Please avoid the RM series. They are generally a rip-off. Well, Corsair's PSUs in general are a rip-off because they seem to be trying harder than everyone else to make a huge profit off of their PSUs. Companies like Cooler Master and others don't mind losing money on their PSUs, so that's why we get nice low prices.

 

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So far I've changed the RAM to the G.Skill, GPU to a 290X, and the SSD to a OCZ ARC 100. I'm still up in the air about the PSU, is the V550 enough or should I make the stretch to the RM650?
That makes sense. Is the temperature differences between a Hyper 212 worth the extra cost? I don't think I'll be overclocking till the CPU is showing signs of struggling with FPS in a game.

I've switched to the PCS 290X.

 

I have to confess that I'm a little bit hurt that you don't trust my recommendation. lol

 

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That's too much wink.gif

 

I know, but you know how some people are on here. lol It's a damn good thing you're speaking up though because it just further proves that a good quality-made 550W PSU is more than plenty for this build.

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The funny thing is the CPU power consumption more than doubling when you run very specific avx2/fma3 synthetics. That literally never happens though unless you're specifically running a benchmark for it
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See Linpack (top result) vs x264 v2.05 test - which is a good representation for about as hard as your CPU will have to work with 100% load on all cores in a workload that's not designed for unrealistic stress. That funny power consumption spike hasn't really changed since haswell biggrin.gif

If you run the two loads side by side, one runs at 100% CPU load and 55c, the other one runs at 100% CPU load and 95c. Quite amusing actually, but irrelevant enough to be ignored for almost all overclocking and/or cooling considerations.

The x264 stress puts the power draw from the wall at 80 watts higher than idle (65w to 145w) while linpack puts it at 175w over idle (65w to 240w). A fraction of that draw is on the RAM load applied but it really hammers the FPU. With Haswell+ instructions, performance in that test doubled but the power draw went way up with it. It was a nice surprise for people running synthetic tests even at stock biggrin.gif

For a comparison of power draw because of the new instructions Intel has has since Haswell, you can look at the highest linpack result against IBT. The IBT test is a super old version of the same thing that does not contain those new instructions, but otherwise functions the same.

I'm actually pretty impressed by a 65w-from-the-wall idle for a system with a real dedicated GPU. I think it was a 980~

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Wow.

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I have to confess that I'm a little bit hurt that you don't trust my recommendation. lol

Lol I went with your recommendation! The parts are already ordered. I trust y'all's advice. biggrin.gifthumb.gif

EDIT: So my entire order minus the case was delivered next day when the 4-7 Day shipping was selected. Let the new system era begin! biggrin.gif


Edited by myresolution_72 - 10/22/15 at 12:45pm
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