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Except SSD prices have been dropping faster than HDD prices.

That's mainly because HDD prices don't have to drop so fast anymore. It's not like HDD's need to take over SSD marketshare at this point (at least anything over 500GB+)

Even considering the speed, I'd still pick an HDD over an SSD at 500+ due to the price alone.

EDIT: And there's no mention about Hybrid drives. frown.gif

So far, the hybrids (SSHDs) have been a disappointment. Most are built on 5400 rpm HDDs and all (except the WD Black²) have too little NAND to be of much use. The Black² has 120GB of NAND but it is slower than most SSDs. Also, you can now buy a 1TB Samsung Pro for a bit less than the Black² and the EVO for considerably less.
     
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So far, the hybrids (SSHDs) have been a disappointment. Most are built on 5400 rpm HDDs and all (except the WD Black²) have too little NAND to be of much use. The Black² has 120GB of NAND but it is slower than most SSDs. Also, you can now buy a 1TB Samsung Pro for a bit less than the Black² and the EVO for considerably less.

Hybrid is not meant to act as an SSD all the time anyway.

And I got 3 Seagate Hybrids here that are all 7200.

Also, you mentioned power consumption, that's quite a moot point for an HDD, don't you think? I mean, 9W? It's not like it's the end of the world compared to other parts.
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Hybrid is not meant to act as an SSD all the time anyway.

And I got 3 Seagate Hybrids here that are all 7200.

Also, you mentioned power consumption, that's quite a moot point for an HDD, don't you think? I mean, 9W? It's not like it's the end of the world compared to other parts.
Hybrid drives are nothing but a product intended to scam inexperienced people of their upgrade money by making a big deal over how HDDs suddenly thrown together with a crappy flash drive is comparable to SSDs when the products are nothing alike in performance and functionality. They were viable when SSDs where still to expensive for most consumers wishing to boot Windows seconds faster but other than I'm fine with them remaining stupid people tax.
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You all make a point of price vs. storage, but 90% of consumers don't need 2TB of storage. Like we always say most people just want to upload photos, browse the internet, check social media, use a word processor check email, watch Netflix etc etc. You don't need 2TB for that. A 256GB or 500 GB SSD is perfect for most people. And well worth the extra cost IMO. A drive that isn't subject to mechanical failure is another big advantage.
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I wonder if they'll do something like put the Extreme line as their own though and market it as a Raptor SSD
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My wd 2tb green just failed me the other day, pritty funny timing. I will never buy another hard drive as long as I live, I am sick of them failing over the years. SSD's are where it's at.
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So far, the hybrids (SSHDs) have been a disappointment. Most are built on 5400 rpm HDDs and all (except the WD Black²) have too little NAND to be of much use. The Black² has 120GB of NAND but it is slower than most SSDs. Also, you can now buy a 1TB Samsung Pro for a bit less than the Black² and the EVO for considerably less.

Hybrid is not meant to act as an SSD all the time anyway...

I never said it was.
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...And I got 3 Seagate Hybrids here that are all 7200...

As I said, most are 5400 rpm. Granted, the 7200 rpm models will perform better than the 5400 rpm models but they still have a limited amount of NAND (typically, only 8GB) that limits any gain one might realize, the amount depending on one's usage patterns.

[quote name="MadRabbit" url="/t/1577684/the-verge-western-digital-is-buying-flash-storage-maker-sandisk-for-19-billion/10#post_24528179...Also, you mentioned power consumption, that's quite a moot point for an HDD, don't you think? I mean, 9W? It's not like it's the end of the world compared to other parts.[/quote]

No, I don't. It can make quite a difference in a laptop or notebook which depends on battery power or when using a large number of drives, such as in a server, especially a server farm (the increased cost of cooling HDDs is also a huge factor).
     
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My wd 2tb green just failed me the other day, pritty funny timing. I will never buy another hard drive as long as I live, I am sick of them failing over the years. SSD's are where it's at.

I'm getting there.

Btw, it looks like the deal has pretty much happened. http://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/2015/10/21/western-digital-to-buy-sandisk-in-1b-deal/
Edited by Lady Fitzgerald - 10/21/15 at 10:43am
     
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Good to see a traditional HDD manufacture acknowledging the emerging and flourishing value of the SSD market for enterprise and ordinary consumers.

What was it that Seagate said again....hmmmmmmm

Well that's a bit disingenuous. Seagate's comments were more about the prevalent use of traditional HDDs in the Enterprise world, a position that is unlikely to change in the foreseeable future.

In fact Seagate has their own line of SSDs already, something that Western Digital has yet to produce.
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