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Forget the HDDs, I want good, affordable 4TB SSDs.

not any time soon

Sooner than you may think. Samsung already has 2TB SSDs out and have announce they will be releasing a 4TB model early next year (they are also releasing a 16TB SSD for enterprise only sometime soon). At the rate SSD prices have been dropping, it may be as little as two or three years before the price for 4TB SSDs drops enough for me. Will they be as cheap as 4TB HDDs? Of course not but their advantages, especially reduced weight (I'm old and handicapped; weight is a huge issue), would make them well worth the cost for me.
Edited by Lady Fitzgerald - 10/21/15 at 6:29pm
     
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Sooner than you may think. Samsung already has 2TB SSDs out and have announce they will be releasing a 4TB model early next year (they are also releasing a 16TB SSD for enterprise only). At the rate SSD prices have been dropping, it may be as little as two or three years before the price for 4TB SSDs drops enough for me. Will they be as cheap as 4TB HDDs? Of course not but their advantages, especially reduced weight (I'm old and handicapped; weight is a huge issue), would make them well worth the cost for me.

I am all in for SSD over HDD because it means i will have less vibration/noise/weight/heat/space in my PC.
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Well tbh, I think they will keep the name more for the consumer market, but not for the enterprise market.

They have their HGST name, which aims more at the enterprise sectors. So with sandisk tech, they can offer more solutions for faster storage, and reach to a markets sandisk has been really struggling to enter.

Also sandisk has a huge name in the flash memory cards, so they might keep the name, because if the consumer suddenly see WD branded memory cards, it will be almost a brand new entry to the market, and consumers will not be so quickly to buy.

I doubt sandisk will operate independently. I'm sure WD will force a few cuts here and there, or promote WD execs into sandisk, or force R&D on things WD is more interested in, or work on sandisk's manufacturing process which is currently struggling. But hopefully some departments will stay intact.

Thanks for explaining it.
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Sooner than you may think. Samsung already has 2TB SSDs out and have announce they will be releasing a 4TB model early next year (they are also releasing a 16TB SSD for enterprise only sometime soon). At the rate SSD prices have been dropping, it may be as little as two or three years before the price for 4TB SSDs drops enough for me. Will they be as cheap as 4TB HDDs? Of course not but their advantages, especially reduced weight (I'm old and handicapped; weight is a huge issue), would make them well worth the cost for me.

SSD's need to drop a lot more for them to totally conquer the storage world and that includes being non-volatile.
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A bit off topic but are those high density SSDs (2TB, etc) TLC or MLC?
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A bit off topic but are those high density SSDs (2TB, etc) TLC or MLC?

Yes. The Samsung 2TB 850 Pros are MLC and the 2TB 850 EVOs are TLC.
     
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I never said it was.
As I said, most are 5400 rpm. Granted, the 7200 rpm models will perform better than the 5400 rpm models but they still have a limited amount of NAND (typically, only 8GB) that limits any gain one might realize, the amount depending on one's usage patterns.

[quote name="MadRabbit" url="/t/1577684/the-verge-western-digital-is-buying-flash-storage-maker-sandisk-for-19-billion/10#post_24528179...Also, you mentioned power consumption, that's quite a moot point for an HDD, don't you think? I mean, 9W? It's not like it's the end of the world compared to other parts.

No, I don't. It can make quite a difference in a laptop or notebook which depends on battery power or when using a large number of drives, such as in a server, especially a server farm (the increased cost of cooling HDDs is also a huge factor).[/quote]

Fair enough but I was really thinking more about desktop PCs about the power consumption part. Sure, I wouldnt like that in my laptop but for my desktop its just a meh.
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I never said it was.
As I said, most are 5400 rpm. Granted, the 7200 rpm models will perform better than the 5400 rpm models but they still have a limited amount of NAND (typically, only 8GB) that limits any gain one might realize, the amount depending on one's usage patterns.

[quote name="MadRabbit" url="/t/1577684/the-verge-western-digital-is-buying-flash-storage-maker-sandisk-for-19-billion/10#post_24528179...Also, you mentioned power consumption, that's quite a moot point for an HDD, don't you think? I mean, 9W? It's not like it's the end of the world compared to other parts.

No, I don't. It can make quite a difference in a laptop or notebook which depends on battery power or when using a large number of drives, such as in a server, especially a server farm (the increased cost of cooling HDDs is also a huge factor).

Fair enough but I was really thinking more about desktop PCs about the power consumption part. Sure, I wouldnt like that in my laptop but for my desktop its just a meh.[/quote]

The concern for desktops is weight. Compare the weight of four 2TB 3.5" HDDs and four 2TB SSDs. When the 4TB SSDs come out, the differences in weight will be even greater. That is significant for a handicapped, flatulent geriatric like me.
     
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