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Youtube needs to make money. Problem is that a lot of Youtubes have embedded ads in their videos so Youtube Red will not fix that. I think Youtube should make something like Vessel. Have videos 1 week before add free for those that pay and then 1 week latter the video becomes free to everyone with ads.
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No, not good.

I don't care how much you hate Apple, them being allowed to charge more for one group of people is bad for us consumers. It may start with Google charging more for Apple users on their Youtube Red service... then it'll evolve to Microsoft and everyone else in the game. And worse, if companies start seeing this and wanting to charge more ( Amazon Prime, Netflix, Hulu, Spotify, etc ) for certain devices. It has a potential snowball effect that can affect anyone of any device with any service. It reeks of anti competitive practices and you're just going to give them a pass because it's against Apple ( for the time being ).

Not to mention supporting Youtube Red in the first place is a bit idiotic. Unless they plan to give premium users faster speeds instead of the piss poor servers they use now for Youtube, then getting rid of ads is already free to you so why pay for it?

If you have a problem with Apple charging 30% extra for in store purchases you should stop using their store. Now if Google are charging 30% extra just because it's Apple it's pure greed but the problem is that Google wish Youtube to go the same way as Google+.
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post #73 of 102
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What are these comments? I feel like if it was worded like "Google All Music Access now removes ads from YouTube and includes background playback on mobile devices" people would be cheering and saying good on Google. But because it's named different, people are talking bad about it, for what?

And what's up with all the adblock comments? Going to encourage pirating stuff too now?
No. But we should have the right NOT to be bombarded with Ads every time we log on. Don't try the defense "well it's their site they can do what they want" argument. Internet should remain Ad free.


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to be honest i think they might as well just start an x rated service. if money is wat they're after ofc
Who says they haven't?! ph34r-smiley.gif LoL!


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Originally Posted by CJRhoades View Post

AFAIK Apple only takes a 30% cut on subscriptions signed up for within the app. If Google allows you to sign up for this service outside the iOS app and still forces you to pay $13/mo to use the service on iOS, they're just pocketing that extra $3. If they're charging the $13/mo rate just for signups within the iOS app then that's fair.
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If you have a problem with Apple charging 30% extra for in store purchases you should stop using their store. Now if Google are charging 30% extra just because it's Apple it's pure greed but the problem is that Google wish Youtube to go the same way as Google+.
Ever stop to think that Apple may be charging them extra and the extra $3 is to offset the cost?
post #74 of 102
I feel as if people are missing the point here (or maybe I am). Surely this is a service for people whom don't want ads but still want to support their favourite YouTubers. I fail to see how the adblock comments are relevant; if you're running adblock you probably have no interest in supporting creators, or if you do, you support them through other means. This is just another means of support.
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I compared GBP to USD prices doh.gif

But it's still cheaper for something that includes TV shows, movies and music. The professionally made YouTube videos are still going to have adverts (in the form of sponsors) in them. You are basically paying $120 a year to watch random people record things with their iPhones but without adverts as well as getting Play Music.

 

For the record, Google Play Music has a much larger selection than Amazon. Prime Day was an eye opener, while you do get great shipping on items the Music/Movies combo was lacking.

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Ever stop to think that Apple may be charging them extra and the extra $3 is to offset the cost?

I'm not sure why you quoted me as that's what I was saying. Apple takes a 30% cut on all transactions performed inside an iOS app including subscriptions that are signed up for within the app.

For example, if I sign up for Netflix on my computer, my $7.99 goes entirely to Netflix regardless of what device I'm watching on. If I sign up for Netflix inside the iOS app, I still pay $7.99 but Netflix only gets $5.59 of it and the rest goes to Apple.

What I'm wondering is whether Google forces you to pay $13 to use the iOS app even if you signed up on a computer. If they do, they'd just be keeping the extra money. If it only costs $13 for subscriptions from within the app, then that'd be fair. Other companies usually just eat the cost instead of passing it onto the consumer however.
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If you have a problem with Apple charging 30% extra for in store purchases you should stop using their store. Now if Google are charging 30% extra just because it's Apple it's pure greed but the problem is that Google wish Youtube to go the same way as Google+.

The app is free. The service the app connects to goes directly through Google. No account with premium on it, no access to premium features.

Just like Netflix.
Just like Hulu.
Just like Spotify.
Just like {insert every other service here}.

This has nothing to do with the STANDARD 30% charge that just about every store charges ( Google's in app transaction fee is also 30%, ( here and here ). This also includes Windows apps too that also charge 30% ( here under 6b ). As well as places like Steam and GOG. A 30% cut is a basic standard for just about every digital storefront.

The only one doing this ( or proposing to do this ) is Google.
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I'm not sure why you quoted me as that's what I was saying. Apple takes a 30% cut on all transactions performed inside an iOS app including subscriptions that are signed up for within the app.

For example, if I sign up for Netflix on my computer, my $7.99 goes entirely to Netflix regardless of what device I'm watching on. If I sign up for Netflix inside the iOS app, I still pay $7.99 but Netflix only gets $5.59 of it and the rest goes to Apple.

What I'm wondering is whether Google forces you to pay $13 to use the iOS app even if you signed up on a computer. If they do, they'd just be keeping the extra money. If it only costs $13 for subscriptions from within the app, then that'd be fair. Other companies usually just eat the cost instead of passing it onto the consumer however.

They'd only lose the initial sign up cost from within the app, which is negligible. After your card info is in Netflix's system and on auto-renew, Netflix gets all of the money as it's no longer an in app purchase. Same goes for every other service. Unless you don't allow auto renew and continuously re-purchase every month manually, through the app... which I'm going to go out on a limb and say nobody does.
Edited by Shrak - 10/22/15 at 11:42am
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For the record, Google Play Music has a much larger selection than Amazon. Prime Day was an eye opener, while you do get great shipping on items the Music/Movies combo was lacking.

Huge difference. It's rare to find something that *isn't* on Google Play. I hate having to pay for it but I hate not having it when I turn it off.
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You would be surprised at the number of people who use YouTube as the exclusive music app on their phone. I've never really understood it with all the great streaming services available but people do it anyway.

I would like that ability, so that I can stream different songs to play while falling asleep. As currently is, I have to hide my tablet while doing so so the light from the screen doesn't annoy me, and the constant screen usage uses up the battery real quick.
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post #80 of 102
Horrible name choice and I personally would never buy this service. BUT I was bit excited to see that they are making the consumer eat the "Apple Fee" for the iOS version.
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