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post #31 of 121
There are so many cracked steam games, this won't stop anything. They just want to save some money on dvds biggrin.gif.
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I posted this in the Fallout discussion thread as well but it's just got me rattled so I am reposting it here. Hopefully the more I spam my opinion and others do the same, something changes. I digress...

I find this to be a pretty damn shame. For one, I don't buy many PC games on disk. The ones that I do, are ones that I know I wanted to collect and show on my shelf. Second, I rarely ever use the disk again after installation. I do however have a data cap back home in Canada but it's quite high now at 200 and something gigabytes(still ridiculous that caps are a thing but that's for another day).

I usually copy over these games to a portable HDD as a backup just in case I want to delete and re-install, give to a friend or sibling or w.e the case may be. Maybe 1 out of 10 reinstalls will I use the disk. That is mainly because modern PC games usually receive a tone of patches, so much where the base game is irrelevant. Still... it's nice to be able to pop in the disk, install 12gb's of a game and maybe download 4-5 gb's of patches rather than downloading all of that. This is another reason why I periodically copy over my games to the portable disk. So I have the most recent version so I don't have to download again... and again...

I just find it annoying from the very get go, we can't even get the full game in the box. How stupid is that? I would like to be able to pop in the disk(s) and install Fallout 4 without hassle. Even if I never use it again. Heck, I am even paying MORE money for the disk version considering I can pick it up on GMG for $53 CAD. It will probably be $80 CAD at the store (69.99 + 13% tax). It's the same with MGS:V. I really want to buy that game and I want to have the physical copy at home on my shelf. But why am I spending more money on a disk that offers NO TANGIBLE BENEFIT?

Is it the end of the world? No but it's a crappy feeling to spend an extra $30 in my case just for a box. I am now thinking I will just buy it on GMG or something and just buy the box in the future.... I don't know. It just feels like I am being cheated but they claim it's 'piracy'. Don't give us bull Bethesda. The first comment on the article nailed it
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This will not stop Piracy of the game and Pete Hines knows this. All you need to do is to upload the game file WITH the necessary files from steam......thats it. So once someone has downloaded from both locations they can repackage the info into a torrent file.

So they didnt do this because of Piracy they did it because of what was already stated the game needs to be on blu-ray disks and not every PC owner has a blu-ray drive. Then the question is why didnt they just package the PC game into 3 installation disks.....because they wanted to save money.

It is always easier to suggest your actions was to prevent piracy than to suggest you wanted to save money when your already making so much.

I cant wait for this game but at least be honest Bethesda.

Just.... blleeeeeeeeeeeh
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I support this through and through.
You're right, guys, that it won't eliminate piracy 100%. But at least this is a system that will NOT annoy legitimate owners every single time they launch the game. It's not a Ubisoft style of DRM that gets super annoying.

Most Steam games are like this anyway. There's always some launch update that has to be installed if the game is installed from a CD. At least Bethesda aren't chucking some terrible DRM over the top.
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There are so many cracked steam games, this won't stop anything. They just want to save some money on dvds biggrin.gif.

Surprised some games don't just come on flash drives with a read only flag and a formatting lockout to keep someone from accidentally-ing it. I've seen drives automount an emulated drive, that's not easily deleted by a novice. Could just auto-mount a bd-rom.
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Guys... jet pack....






But this will not stop it being copied , clone and shared . Nearly everything gets cracked it just a matter of when and after how long ....
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That has nothing to do with piracy and is standard procedure really

Seems fine to me , pretty pointless to buy a physical disc version of a game in 2015
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Welp, looks like I'm going to drop another $60 for a steam copy on top of my Pip-Boy Edition pre-order just so I can pre-load it rolleyes.gif Talk about screwing me over, I bet that additional download is probably 15GB's, that'd take me 3 days to download.
    
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I mean honestly, does this really surprise anyone? Physical media is disappearing very quickly. Just from a business perspective, why spend the money on physical media? For a game this size to be fully put on DVD it would take what maybe 3-5 dual layer DVDs? Not sure how big the game is. Even at a few pennies per unit, you sell millions of units and that cost adds up. Switch to Blu-ray and maybe the cost per unit would decrease, but how many people out there that would purchase the disc version would purchase a Blu-ray variant? Enough to justify the production cost when it costs them little to nothing to throw it up on a Steam server?

Don't get me wrong I'm still a big fan of physical media. When I made the jump to PC gaming, not that long ago, I went out of my way to purchase the disc variant of Skyrim because of my ridiculously slow internet here. Man was I disappointment to find out it had nothing more than a steam installer on it....
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Welp, looks like I'm going to drop another $60 for a steam copy on top of my Pip-Boy Edition pre-order just so I can pre-load it rolleyes.gif Talk about screwing me over, I bet that additional download is probably 15GB's, that'd take me 3 days to download.

Or wait for it to arrive and not buy two copies?
Is there a fallout monster with a gun to your temple yelling at you to finish the game at day of release and if not it will shoot you?
I don't get some people :roll eyes:

Besides, I'm sure this game like every other game in the last 3 years, will have patches over patches over time, that what you get on the dvd, even if it was the full version, you will still need to download a huge chunk anyway.
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Well the main problem I think is the blind support for Steam and how people basically worship it completely forgetting the bad things about it, it has been happening slowly but soon you won't be able to own your games at all, they will all sit in your digital leased "library" which you can lose access to for whatever reason they want, if we are going full digital there needs to be a change so you can actually own the game and not lease it off Steam/Origin servers.

I doubt this is about piracy because everything gets cracked eventually no matter what, adding DRM just makes the cracking groups wanna crack it more and all pirates need to do is sit and wait while people who bought it suffer from DRM.
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