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If I were building a new pc right now I would definitely purchase an ssd of the 500gb- 1tb region and install all my software on it instead of a 250 and a sepetae 1tb hdd. These ssds are really well priced if you catch them on sales, and then a 3-4tb hdd for media. But your budget and computer use may vary from mine
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post #12 of 37
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Originally Posted by thaipham101 View Post

I think I'll take the Corsair RM750 tongue.gif got some confusion when I saw all the series, RM, CX, CS, HX. So confusing lol

you don't actually need a 750w PSU, i'd take that $ and get a higher quality 500 to 600w unit. i'm not saying the RM is a bad unit, i'm just saying you are paying extra $ for that corsair sticker.

let me do a quick breakdown of what you are going to be using. you are looking at a 6700k which is a 95w part. a GTX970 which is a 145w part. add everything else together (i'm guessing it's around 100w worth of power draw) so you are looking at a total of maybe 350w. even if you run SLi somewhere down the road, you are only looking at about 500w of power. so... as you can see a high quality 600w unit is more then plenty of overkill for your system.

so instead of paying the extra $ for a 750w PSU (and the extra corsair sticker surcharge biggrin.gif ) i'd go with something like a seasonic platinum or XFX XTS so you'd end up spending less $ on power bill in the long run.
post #13 of 37
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Originally Posted by Alex of the West View Post

If I were building a new pc right now I would definitely purchase an ssd of the 500gb- 1tb region and install all my software on it instead of a 250 and a sepetae 1tb hdd. These ssds are really well priced if you catch them on sales, and then a 3-4tb hdd for media. But your budget and computer use may vary from mine

personally, my next machine is going to have a 120gig M.2 PCIe3 SSD for that sweet 1.6gig transfer rate for the OS. then the 500gb sata ssd for games and rest of my junk on a big mechanical drive. kinda sad that even sata3 ssd isn't fast enough these days biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by Alex of the West View Post

If I were building a new pc right now I would definitely purchase an ssd of the 500gb- 1tb region and install all my software on it instead of a 250 and a sepetae 1tb hdd. These ssds are really well priced if you catch them on sales, and then a 3-4tb hdd for media. But your budget and computer use may vary from mine
I just one to see how well that set up perform compare to my need tongue.gif also spend for a SSD that size is a lot too
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personally, my next machine is going to have a 120gig M.2 PCIe3 SSD for that sweet 1.6gig transfer rate for the OS. then the 500gb sata ssd for games and rest of my junk on a big mechanical drive. kinda sad that even sata3 ssd isn't fast enough these days biggrin.gif
Does the M.2 perform well? How is it compared to the traditional SSD? tongue.gif first I wanted to have one Evo M.2 then I heard that they're not as good as the traditional EVO so I changed
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you don't actually need a 750w PSU, i'd take that $ and get a higher quality 500 to 600w unit. i'm not saying the RM is a bad unit, i'm just saying you are paying extra $ for that corsair sticker.

let me do a quick breakdown of what you are going to be using. you are looking at a 6700k which is a 95w part. a GTX970 which is a 145w part. add everything else together (i'm guessing it's around 100w worth of power draw) so you are looking at a total of maybe 350w. even if you run SLi somewhere down the road, you are only looking at about 500w of power. so... as you can see a high quality 600w unit is more then plenty of overkill for your system.

so instead of paying the extra $ for a 750w PSU (and the extra corsair sticker surcharge biggrin.gif ) i'd go with something like a seasonic platinum or XFX XTS so you'd end up spending less $ on power bill in the long run.
Thanks for the advice, I think you're right, I want 750W just for in case I want to ad a second VGA and some light or accessory on the front panel smile.gif) long term project and adjustment
post #17 of 37
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Does the M.2 perform well? How is it compared to the traditional SSD? tongue.gif first I wanted to have one Evo M.2 then I heard that they're not as good as the traditional EVO so I changed

typical current generation sata ssd is going to perform somewhere in the 500 to 600mb transfer rate

typical M.2 PCIe3 (not the PCIe2 version) will perform somewhere in the 1600 to 1800mb transfer rate

so... yah i'm getting one for the OS. the games doesn't really need that kind of speed since there are some background processing when starting the game up anyway and no matter how fast your SSD is it won't really help the game load any faster. so 500mb per second is more then plenty for games, but when i turn my computer on, i'd like to be able to do stuff on it asap biggrin.gif i don't want to turn my machine on, then go grab a drink. i want to grab my drink then turn my computer on smile.gif
post #18 of 37
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Originally Posted by psyclum View Post

typical current generation sata ssd is going to perform somewhere in the 500 to 600mb transfer rate

typical M.2 PCIe3 (not the PCIe2 version) will perform somewhere in the 1600 to 1800mb transfer rate

so... yah i'm getting one for the OS. the games doesn't really need that kind of speed since there are some background processing when starting the game up anyway and no matter how fast your SSD is it won't really help the game load any faster. so 500mb per second is more then plenty for games, but when i turn my computer on, i'd like to be able to do stuff on it asap biggrin.gif i don't want to turn my machine on, then go grab a drink. i want to grab my drink then turn my computer on smile.gif
I see 2 deals on Fry's today. Samsung 850 EVO M.2 250GB for $79.99 and 2x 8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000MHz and one on Microcenter, i7-6700K for $319.99
Any thought on those? The 2 on Fry's ends today
post #19 of 37
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Originally Posted by thaipham101 View Post

Thanks for the advice, I think you're right, I want 750W just for in case I want to ad a second VGA and some light or accessory on the front panel smile.gif) long term project and adjustment

well, if you are talking about a GTX980Ti coming in at 250w, then i'd agree with you. but the GTX970 is only 145w and even the GTX980 is only 165w. so realistically, a 600w PSU has more then enough headroom to handle even GTX980 SLi and whatever misc accessory you have in mind. remember when i did my estimation i added 100w of power to misc stuff already. that's a fairly generous estimate given the components you are talking about. realistically, your misc power draw is maybe 50w or less in normal gaming load.

here's an old vid but the info on it is valid. you can look up the TDP of the components he used in the vid and make a comparison to the system you intend to build. he touched on the overall efficiency of the PSU under various loads and just remember you aren't ALWAYS running benchmark or playing games when you have your computer on.



if you look towards the end of the vid, he was running a pair of GTX580's (244w TDP GPU so it's similar to the GTX980Ti at 250w TDP ) and an overclocked 2600k (95w TDP so it's the same as the 6700k). with that setup, he was only pulling 523w from the wall under benchmark load... so even with that setup, a high quality 600w is "overkill" under "gaming load" since you will never reach the power draw of the benchmark load under ANY gaming situation.

so... this is the info you need for making your decision. the rest is up to you smile.gif personally i'd go with lower wattage and better quality so you'd pay less on your electric bill.
post #20 of 37
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Originally Posted by thaipham101 View Post

I see 2 deals on Fry's today. Samsung 850 EVO M.2 250GB for $79.99 and 2x 8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000MHz and one on Microcenter, i7-6700K for $319.99
Any thought on those? The 2 on Fry's ends today

the samsung 850 evo is a sata ssd. it uses the m.2 slot but as i mentioned, the one you want to get is the PCIe3 version of the m.2 not the PCIe2 or the sata version

basically these type

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=m.2+&N=100008118%20600640786%20600521287&isNodeId=1

the i7 deal from microcenter is insanely good... i wish there is a microcenter where i live frown.gif

the 2x8 vengeance lpx 3000mhz is also a very good deal. wish newegg had that deal biggrin.gif
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