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Im planning on buying a SSD soon, hopefully till x-mas.
Could it be my PSU? I believe xfx are built by seasonic, no? Hence they should be good enough to sustain a mild overclock.
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Im planning on buying a SSD soon, hopefully till x-mas.
Could it be my PSU? I believe xfx are built by seasonic, no? Hence they should be good enough to sustain a mild overclock.
It isn't your PSU, its a lack of voltage.
There are limiting factors that must be handled in order to overclock your CPU:

  • socket heat
  • VRM heat
  • package heat
On almost every motherboard, you're going to have to have an active heat dispersal system for each one of those. You will reach your limit when you're unable to keep any under cap, as it seems you're doing now. Until you have a fan on the socket and a fan on the VRMs, you may be stuck where you are.
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post #33 of 41
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It isn't your PSU, its a lack of voltage.
There are limiting factors that must be handled in order to overclock your CPU:

  • socket heat
  • VRM heat
  • package heat
On almost every motherboard, you're going to have to have an active heat dispersal system for each one of those. You will reach your limit when you're unable to keep any under cap, as it seems you're doing now. Until you have a fan on the socket and a fan on the VRMs, you may be stuck where you are.
Is there any way i could check those temperatures with a program? Except cpu socket (which goes up to 60).
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hwinfo64, but I'm not aware if your particular motherboard has sensors for all 3.
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post #35 of 41
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HWInfo shows my motherboard temperature only, which is 25-30.It doesn't show the rest of the temps, you're right.
I raised the voltage to 1.4, stress tested on 4.2 and after a while, when my pc crashed, i opened the case and tried to touch the VRMs on my motherboard, man they were burning like hell rolleyes.gif

I guess i'm staying 4.0 until i get some fans for the VRMs..or switch to intel!


Thanks everyone for your help and your patience guys, appreciate it smile.gif
post #36 of 41
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HWInfo shows my motherboard temperature only, which is 25-30.It doesn't show the rest of the temps, you're right.
I raised the voltage to 1.4, stress tested on 4.2 and after a while, when my pc crashed, i opened the case and tried to touch the VRMs on my motherboard, man they were burning like hell rolleyes.gif

I guess i'm staying 4.0 until i get some fans for the VRMs..or switch to intel!


Thanks everyone for your help and your patience guys, appreciate it smile.gif

Hey, there's nothing wrong with 4Ghz! biggrin.gif Anyway, if you had only bought the "Evo", now you 'd have 2 more phases...

On a note, since the motherboard has so much difficulty to go past 4Ghz, personally i wouldn't attempt it. I 'd still put a fan to blow on the VRM, but i 'd stay at 4Ghz. If you want it to live a long life, that is.
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HWInfo shows my motherboard temperature only, which is 25-30.It doesn't show the rest of the temps, you're right.
I raised the voltage to 1.4, stress tested on 4.2 and after a while, when my pc crashed, i opened the case and tried to touch the VRMs on my motherboard, man they were burning like hell rolleyes.gif

I guess i'm staying 4.0 until i get some fans for the VRMs..or switch to intel!


Thanks everyone for your help and your patience guys, appreciate it smile.gif


1.4v is ways too much for your motherboard at first without cooling.

Find some fan too cool them smile.gif
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I say best thing is live with the 4.0Ghz for now save up and get a better mobo and memory and PSU. Thye are all essential to worming out the bugs. During the time you save use this to learn your system better and if nothing else use it as a stepping stone towards a new build that will OC.

It is hard to say but sometimes components don't live up to working like they should.

I have a I7 920 CO in mine and the DO version of the chip is far better. Just a matter of revisions sometimes. None of this is a problem learning to OC if you have money to spend all the time should something not work right or what not, you just buy a new one.

As far as who builds the XFX I would think XFX may have copied the Seasoninc if nothing else. I believe Corsair designed theirs after a Seaasonic PSU too.

Here is a Gurus post on PSU. Do read the part on further reading in his post too. http://www.overclock.net/t/678840/on-seasonic/0_20
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I guess i'm staying 4.0 until i get some fans for the VRMs..or switch to intel!
If you get a 6 core Intel you are forced to buy an expensive motherboard. So it's like getting a Sabertooth plus spending even more. Apples and oranges. If you buy a cheap board for a power-hungry CPU it's going to have trouble overclocking to a high speed.

Microcenter's current pricing:

$319 i7-5820k
$150 AR, ASRock X99 Extreme4 LGA 2011-3
$35 tax
$505

plus Noctua D15 cooler $94 from the egg

total = $600


$110 8320E
$140 Sabertooth 990FX R2.0
$17.50 tax
$267.48

plus Noctua D15 cooler $94 from the egg

total = $362

With AMD you have the option of going with a pretty good overclocking motherboard:

$110 8320E
$50 GA-970A-UD3P
$11.20 tax
$171

plus Noctua D15 cooler $94 from the egg

total = $265
Edited by superstition222 - 10/26/15 at 10:15pm
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So you could get two of the AMDs with the UD3P for the price of one Intel setup and still have $70 left over to buy RAM for the second AMD set.

The Intel is faster than the overclocked 8320E at 4.6 GHz but is it faster than two systems?
Edited by superstition222 - 10/27/15 at 3:53pm
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