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Good temps for the Voltage.

+1 for the eff! thumb.gif
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( I know, I know....it came out when Christ was a child, but I like it , maybe cause I'm old too?)
You are not old. I remember when dirt was invented.

I was there when dirt was taped out smile.gif

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that VRM looks very similar to the one on the 970 Gaming. Any chance you'll take the heatsink off and give us the MOSFET part numbers?

I'll give it a good testing in it's stock config , then I plan on taking a peek.

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Looking forward to seeing the results.

I'm impressed with the features of the board too, nice audio setup, aesthetics, and heatsinks. How much did you pay for it?

Too much ( $139) It was on sale a week earlier for $10 cheaper I believe.
I'm hoping it has the same audio quality that my Mpower Z87 does, I really enjoy that setup.
Usb 3.1 sets it apart from other am3+ boards as well.
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What was your ambient during those tests?
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It has an all-star supporting cast in the cooling and psu that are a big help, but I'm impressed at this point in time.

It was surprisingly cool , the heatsinks were only slightly warm even pushing 1.64 volts on real bench. I'll see if I can scrounge up a digital thermometer and get some temps for everyone.

I look forward to testing it with the FX 8370e, it's such a different chip from the one I'm testing now - could be interesting .




Nice biggrin.gif


Can you check in Hwinfo 64 for the VR VOUT reading if it has any and tell me if it close to the vcore


Thank you smile.gif

I'm sorry , I don't see what you are looking for - any hints on where I need to look for that information?

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What was your ambient during those tests?

It is about 70 F here ( 21 c? ), keep in mind it's sitting on a motherboard box in the open air, with a fan on the backside of the socket as well as one on the VRM's.
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I'm sorry , I don't see what you are looking for - any hints on where I need to look for that information?
It is about 70 F here ( 21 c? ), keep in mind it's sitting on a motherboard box in the open air, with a fan on the backside of the socket as well as one on the VRM's.



Here mine where it show it

Maybe you dont have it


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You were pushing 1.64 vcore through it and it didn't burn? I'm impressed.
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You were pushing 1.64 vcore through it and it didn't burn? I'm impressed.



fx 9590 come with 1.55v max of what i know. 1volt more is aint gonna kill it with cooling smile.gif
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Here mine where it show it

Maybe you dont have it



MSI uses UPi VRM controller, which are pretty good but not nearly as advanced as the digital CHIL / IRF controllers on ASUS, Gigabyte and the most expensive ASRocks.

Prime95 (custom) FFT: 512K - 768K, "in place", run each FFT for 5min, or GTF0 biggrin.gif

Also I would love to see if they have really ditched those NikoSemi fets from the CPU/NB VRM.
The board at least has two high and low-side fets per CPU phase, which makes me believe they haven´t.
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Also I would love to see if they have really ditched those NikoSemi fets from the CPU/NB VRM.
The board at least has two high and low-side fets per CPU phase, which makes me believe they haven´t.

They 've probably just copied the VRM of the 970 Gaming. So Nikos again, but powerpaks.
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Here mine where it show it

Maybe you dont have it



MSI uses UPi VRM controller, which are pretty good but not nearly as advanced as the digital CHIL / IRF controllers on ASUS, Gigabyte and the most expensive ASRocks.

Prime95 (custom) FFT: 512K - 768K, "in place", run each FFT for 5min, or GTF0 biggrin.gif

Also I would love to see if they have really ditched those NikoSemi fets from the CPU/NB VRM.
The board at least has two high and low-side fets per CPU phase, which makes me believe they haven´t.

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Also I would love to see if they have really ditched those NikoSemi fets from the CPU/NB VRM.
The board at least has two high and low-side fets per CPU phase, which makes me believe they haven´t.

They 've probably just copied the VRM of the 970 Gaming. So Nikos again, but powerpaks.

I would say that protracted stress testing 8 core Vishera's isn't MSI's strong suit . That said , there aren't many programs out there that load all 8 cores ( and the rest of the system - ram etc) to the level that Prime 95 , 0cct , or IBT do. I ran both of my 8350's at 5ghz over a year on the GD -80 an CHV-z - I don't recall a single crash on the GD 80, but the CHV-Z would have random bsod/lockups occasionally
It's odd that the CHV-Z will have up to a 200 MHz advantage over the MSI in stresstests given the same cooling etc, ( nothing sub-zero) but have more stumbles in daily use. Also the GD 80 works wonderfully with CnQ enabled. To add to the mystery, the gd- 80 tends to get better clocks during benching than the CHV-Z.

I really don't think Niko's are much of an issue to the average user, the standards here are quite removed from those however.
I have over 100 builds out there with MSI motherboards in them - some of them are 12 years old and still running. Most of them newer that socket 939 AMD systems. In addition to that, I own over a dozen myself. The ones I've built for others are mostly gaming machines with quite a few of them being used for industrial control - running 24/7 in terrible conditions no climate control, dust, electromagnetic fields etc. The only failures have been bulging caps on the 12 year old K7 delta ISLR's ( 2 now, both have been resurrected smile.gif ) A k-8 neo 4 took some voltage from a lightning strike through the NIC, killing it , and the onboard sound, otherwise its still running today. A 990 GD 65 had been flashed to a beta bios by it's former owner , wigged out and tried to set the ht link to 7000 eek.gif, even after clearing cmos and a 790 gd 70 that broke in the socket area under the weight of a big air cooler. Not one failure in the power delivery system in all those builds, over a period of a dozen years.

I see now that the FX 9590 and 9370 are supported , someone has faith in the 990 Gaming.
I'll play around a little while longer with the 8350 , then move on to the 9370 or 8370e.
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