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Cheeswood's First Custom Loop

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Hello All,

Just completed my first custom loop on my PC. Cant begin to explain how much fun it really was, definitely took patience and forth right thinking but now i just want to keep designing and building them. The life of a tinker I suppose.

Now that I got this down, definitely going to be looking at going over to hard piping in the coming months.

EKWB D5 PWM Pump
EKWB Reservoir
EKWB 240MM PE Rad
EKWB 360MM PE Rad
EKWB Compression fittings
EKWB GTX980Ti ASUS Strix Water block
EKWB Supremacy EVO Copper CPU block
XSPC Temp probe
Primochill Clear 10/13mm piping
6 x ThermalTake RIING RGB 256 Fans

PC Specs:
Gigabyte Z97x Gaming 7
I7 - 4790k @ 5.0Ghz
ASUS GTX980Ti +100mhz core +400mhz memory
PNY XLR8 2x8GB 2133Mhz Ram
EVGA 850G2
NZXT H440
2 x 240GB SSD Raid 0

Now the fun pictures:
















Edited by cheesewood - 10/24/15 at 4:01pm
post #2 of 14
Very nice build. Have you done any testing yet. Do you have a Delta T temp?. That's the difference between temp of air entering the rad and the water. It telly you how efficiently your WCing is working.
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Thank you for kind words. To be honest, I have not yet and I am probably going to do some more reading on coming up with that most accurately. I will say room is about 26*C ambient, and my coolant appears to be around 30*C most of the time.

Previously H1Z1 took me to 80-83*C on my ASUS Strix card on stock clocks. Under water, I am able to go +100mhz core and +400mhz memory and never go above 45*C.
post #4 of 14
Delta T is an old water cooler's spec. Under 5°c is pretty good!
It doesn't tell you anything about temps on your components, in fact you can have a very good Delta T and hot components, Like if you rad facings were to small, pump to small, fans not moving enough air through the rad(s) The system could be working very efficiently, removing all the heat it could, but just be sized to small to remove all the heat you need removed.

Again, nice build and nice log.
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Except that all those things would imply a high delta.
If your Delta is low then coolant temp should be low and component temps should be low.
You can have a great delta and still have high temps if the ambient is just very high, or if block contact is poor.

A 5c delta at full load is just a touch optimistic for the loop above without very high fan speeds. Especially in that case with the panels on. A careful measuring of the ambient and coolant will give an accurate figure.

The build looks great for a first attempt. Moving to hard tubing is worth every cent if you like an attractive loop, and its not hard if you have any experience working with your hands.
Edited by Jakusonfire - 10/23/15 at 10:19pm
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Well as a reference point, I have two Alphacool rads, XT45 420 and UT60 360, both running SP120 led fans in push only. Fans ramp up to about 1000-1100 rpm when gaming. I have a 4930K @ 4.5GHz and an overclocked 980 Ti that puts out roughly 350W under load. After a 3 hour gaming session the coolant temp is at 34.7C (measured by dipping a thermometer into the reservoir), while my ambient is 22C, so that's a delta of 12.7C.

Now of course his 4690K puts out less heat than my 4930K, and his 980 Ti is also probably around 300W just eyeballing the OC (unless it's also overvolted), but at the same time he also has 30% less raddage.
post #7 of 14
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After further testing and getting a new thermometer in my loop, I would say my ambient is 24-25*C in my room. Coolant idle temp is around 28-29*C. After about 2-3 hrs of gaming sits around 36-38*C depending on the game.

Changed out some of the fans as well to the rest of the RIING RGB fans.





post #8 of 14
Super build, great temps. thumb.gif Just an observation, and it could be the angle of the photo, but the tubing coming out of the bottom of the video card look a little tight. I would make that a little longer. No sense putting undo stress on your VC block.
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post #9 of 14
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Thank you, ordered the NZXT Noctis 450 Midnight Blue edition today so when it gets here I am going to move over to a hard tubing setup so hopefully wont have those bends like that anymore.
post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by Jakusonfire View Post

Except that all those things would imply a high delta.
If your Delta is low then coolant temp should be low and component temps should be low.
You can have a great delta and still have high temps if the ambient is just very high, or if block contact is poor.

A 5c delta at full load is just a touch optimistic for the loop above without very high fan speeds. Especially in that case with the panels on. A careful measuring of the ambient and coolant will give an accurate figure.

The build looks great for a first attempt. Moving to hard tubing is worth every cent if you like an attractive loop, and its not hard if you have any experience working with your hands.

So I now have two temp gauges in my unit, one in the loop and the other is a probe in the case.

I am curious, should I be measuring ambient temps in the case or ambient temps outside the case?

Thank you!
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