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Gold as in ready to ship, not gold as in Gold edition or some award. And Skyrim had a tiny percent off December the year it was released.

They go Gold after two to three years of patches to bring the alpha game to what it should be at release, which ironically is when the game is discounted and thus (maybe, just maybe) worth buying.
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They go Gold after two to three years of patches to bring the alpha game to what it should be at release, which ironically is when the game is discounted and thus (maybe, just maybe) worth buying.
Right, but this is a different kind of going gold.
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I remember when Fallout 3 came out.. had Tri 280's and it was only using one GPU due to drivers or whatever. Was still getting close to 90 or 100 fps with max settings anyway

Hopefully this one runs just as well
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Right, but this is a different kind of going gold.

When games were sold on CD's they used to store the data on gold discs, so, it meant the game was ready for mass production or ready to be shipped. Now when they say Gold it means it's ready to be alpha and beta tested by us.
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When games were sold on CD's they used to store the data on gold discs, so, it meant the game was ready for mass production or ready to be shipped. Now when they say Gold it means it's ready to be alpha and beta tested by us.

We are the beta testers nowadays, that's for sure. It's the ultimate money making scheme... because now they're charging the beta testers, instead of paying them. It's sad that people don't realize it.

It's also very sad that people don't realize the difference between alpha, beta, and final. The word final defines itself, and absolutely nothing we get nowadays is final. We're paying full price for alpha software, beta at best, and nobody realizes it. Final means no patches, no DLC, no expansion packs, PERIOD. The software is done and it's good to go for as long as the hardware supports it.

Software used to be, for example, we have software alpha version 0.72, next we have beta version 0.87, then we're finished with beta testing and we have final version 1.00 and it's ready for release.

Now we have endless software patches which are a lazy developer's easy button. You the consumer, instead of beta testers, are expected to find and report bugs to the developer, for the developer to fix the software and release patches to fix the software. You are working for the developer and you don't even know it. You are contributing to your own experience, sure, but that's the developer's job, not yours.
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I remember when Fallout 3 came out.. had Tri 280's and it was only using one GPU due to drivers or whatever. Was still getting close to 90 or 100 fps with max settings anyway

Hopefully this one runs just as well

Blame the consoles. These leeches are pulling graphics down for all of us.
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We are the beta testers nowadays, that's for sure. It's the ultimate money making scheme... because now they're charging the beta testers, instead of paying them. It's sad that people don't realize it.

It's also very sad that people don't realize the difference between alpha, beta, and final. The word final defines itself, and absolutely nothing we get nowadays is final. We're paying full price for alpha software, beta at best, and nobody realizes it. Final means no patches, no DLC, no expansion packs, PERIOD. The software is done and it's good to go for as long as the hardware supports it.

Software used to be, for example, we have software alpha version 0.72, next we have beta version 0.87, then we're finished with beta testing and we have final version 1.00 and it's ready for release.

Now we have endless software patches which are a lazy developer's easy button. You the consumer, instead of beta testers, are expected to find and report bugs to the developer, for the developer to fix the software and release patches to fix the software. You are working for the developer and you don't even know it. You are contributing to your own experience, sure, but that's the developer's job, not yours.

While I agree to a certain degree I am glad there are patches. There are uncountable possible hardware and software configurations and lots of things that can and do go wrong so it's impossible for the developers to account for all and every scenario. What is a problem is when they ship alpha stage games like BF(ail)4, Batman Arkham Alpha, AC:U (AC:Ur the fool for buying this) and other rubbish as ready for release (Gold) when they're barely out of alpha stage.

Then we look at Witcher 3. The game worked and worked well on release but there were bugs that needed ironing out, which happened with patches. That is the point of patches, not day one patches that are the size of the game to make the game what it should have been on that day of release.
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Blame the consoles. These leeches are pulling graphics down for all of us.

For the love of God, change that avatar, I can't stop staring and now it's making me want to rewatch Despicable Me 2. I've lost count how many times I've seen those two films wackosmiley.gif
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I hope I get my 2x$25 Dell gift cards on time to buy the game and still get 1 more $25 gift card. It'll be pretty close.... I hope they don't get rid of the promotion by then.
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Seems to me that the Bethesda dev team must be pretty large, and they still "take their time" putting together the next game, then working on expansions in a line and not simultaneously. I wonder if their studio is kept "small" by design to only produce so much work in a given time because of the way they release their games that usually have a good 3-4 yrs+ lifespan.

They certainly aren't taking an EA or Activision approach, cranking out a new (FPS) game every year.
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For the love of God, change that avatar, I can't stop staring and now it's making me want to rewatch Despicable Me 2. I've lost count how many times I've seen those two films wackosmiley.gif

I… can't… it’s… controlling… me.

The… Pixar… plague…

Save yourself!
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