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am looking for something of a unicorn right now...
Quick Version:

Under 15.6 inches, smaller the better.
Above 1080p Touchscreen(preferably UHD/4k)
Nvidia graphics 960m or better

OR

2-in-1
High Res Touchscreen
Fast Skylake CPU, U-series or faster
Nvidia, but might settle for integrated graphics



I already have my 4790k and R9 290 rig (which is getting crossfired and a 4k monitor soon), so I want my laptop to be more about screen than performance... but I cannot STAND integrated graphics or dual core CPU's.

So, I'm looking for a high end Intel (preferably skylake) that's as portable as possible. My experience is that the 15.6 inch laptops are still quite bulky. I need portability, I am taking this thing with me all over campus and am using it in cramped seats in lecture halls.

Above FHD and a touchscreen seem very very useful as a college student and seem to do wonders with Windows 10. I really want to push the resolution, sick of 1080p. in my experience 4k would be the best, as even though 1800p or 1620p look higher res, that's and odd number of pixels (4k is exactly 4 times the pixels of 1080p, all the pixels fill in, 3k is 3/4 more pixels...) It';s not the scaling I've had troubles ith, it's that many programs don't scale well trying to fit 3 pixels in the spot of one (4 would scale perfectly) and most program UI's looked blurry in 3k for me)

I'm also looking for some speed. It doesn't have to game at 4k, but my experience is that even simple tasks and programs in 4k stutter without suffiecient graphics, and I'd at least like to play some titles in 1080p under its own power on the go.
The best part is I can just Steam In-Home-Stream games and run them at 4k using my desktop's power, nearly anywhere on my campus's wifi xD
Screen Res is my focus here
A 970m would actually push 4k, but I won't find that for what I'm asking for...
SSD, HDD, not the biggest issue. a decent SSD 256 or better is great, even greater with a secondary drive.

As for models I've considered (all 4k touch screen:
Asus UX501: http://amzn.to/1MfVlVu $1500
(full 4720hq, 960m only 2gb, 4k touchscreen, best quality, but last gen, lower vram, most $$$)

Inspiron 15 7559: http://dell.to/1S1xrfh $1000
(i5 skylake, 4 threads, 960m 4gb, 4k touchscreen. Cheaper quality, but price is too so...)

Now these are all cool, but bulky, so I'm considering getting a more portable, smaller, possibly 2-in-1 as well.
These all seem too slow for my liking, and many cost even more than the above, but you're paying for the size factor here on out...
These are my picks so far:

Toshiba 12: http://bit.ly/1H078zN $1400
(best 4k touch screen quality of it's size, pretty average specs, expensive for it's lower specs)

Dell 15.6 inch 2-in-1 http://dell.to/1OXig6R $999
(no SSD, no graphics, 4k touch, too large to be practical)

and I'm just gonna put this here...
http://bit.ly/1LM3N9r
apparently even the i5 models have the 960m in them and 3000x2000p, but that model alone costs more than my entire gaming rig...


What do you guys think I should buy?
I am a power user looking for portability, and want the least amount of compromise possible. Target under $1500, but share your ideas anyways, especially any upcoming models, as I believe only half of companies' new skylake laptops are even released.

HELP ME FIND THIS UNICORN!!!
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post #2 of 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by jkteddy77 View Post

am looking for something of a unicorn right now...
Quick Version:

Under 15.6 inches, smaller the better.
Above 1080p Touchscreen(preferably UHD/4k)
Nvidia graphics 960m or better

OR

2-in-1
High Res Touchscreen
Fast Skylake CPU, U-series or faster
Nvidia, but might settle for integrated graphics



I already have my 4790k and R9 290 rig (which is getting crossfired and a 4k monitor soon), so I want my laptop to be more about screen than performance... but I cannot STAND integrated graphics or dual core CPU's.

So, I'm looking for a high end Intel (preferably skylake) that's as portable as possible. My experience is that the 15.6 inch laptops are still quite bulky. I need portability, I am taking this thing with me all over campus and am using it in cramped seats in lecture halls.

Above FHD and a touchscreen seem very very useful as a college student and seem to do wonders with Windows 10. I really want to push the resolution, sick of 1080p. in my experience 4k would be the best, as even though 1800p or 1620p look higher res, that's and odd number of pixels (4k is exactly 4 times the pixels of 1080p, all the pixels fill in, 3k is 3/4 more pixels...) It';s not the scaling I've had troubles ith, it's that many programs don't scale well trying to fit 3 pixels in the spot of one (4 would scale perfectly) and most program UI's looked blurry in 3k for me)

I'm also looking for some speed. It doesn't have to game at 4k, but my experience is that even simple tasks and programs in 4k stutter without suffiecient graphics, and I'd at least like to play some titles in 1080p under its own power on the go.
The best part is I can just Steam In-Home-Stream games and run them at 4k using my desktop's power, nearly anywhere on my campus's wifi xD
Screen Res is my focus here
A 970m would actually push 4k, but I won't find that for what I'm asking for...
SSD, HDD, not the biggest issue. a decent SSD 256 or better is great, even greater with a secondary drive.

As for models I've considered (all 4k touch screen:
Asus UX501: http://amzn.to/1MfVlVu $1500
(full 4720hq, 960m only 2gb, 4k touchscreen, best quality, but last gen, lower vram, most $$$)

Inspiron 15 7559: http://dell.to/1S1xrfh $1000
(i5 skylake, 4 threads, 960m 4gb, 4k touchscreen. Cheaper quality, but price is too so...)

Now these are all cool, but bulky, so I'm considering getting a more portable, smaller, possibly 2-in-1 as well.
These all seem too slow for my liking, and many cost even more than the above, but you're paying for the size factor here on out...
These are my picks so far:

Toshiba 12: http://bit.ly/1H078zN $1400
(best 4k touch screen quality of it's size, pretty average specs, expensive for it's lower specs)

Dell 15.6 inch 2-in-1 http://dell.to/1OXig6R $999
(no SSD, no graphics, 4k touch, too large to be practical)

and I'm just gonna put this here...
http://bit.ly/1LM3N9r
apparently even the i5 models have the 960m in them and 3000x2000p, but that model alone costs more than my entire gaming rig...


What do you guys think I should buy?
I am a power user looking for portability, and want the least amount of compromise possible. Target under $1500, but share your ideas anyways, especially any upcoming models, as I believe only half of companies' new skylake laptops are even released.

HELP ME FIND THIS UNICORN!!!

You could wait for Black Friday which it is right around the corner.
Unless you are really impatient on buying it.
     
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post #3 of 4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryou-kun View Post

You could wait for Black Friday which it is right around the corner.
Unless you are really impatient on buying it.

Well, so a little more backstory.
Got this for college: http://amzn.to/204bCRq

and while it was awesome, it got 95C in any games, though it could run Battlefield 4 on high settings in full 3k at 60+ fps. was just using my desktop so much more, it didn't do anything for me, I couldn't justify a $1800 laptop I only used 2 hours a day and lugged a mile across campus. Even though it was slim and light as can be, it was SUCH a pain to take around with me (Just the sheer area it took up, it was plenty thin and light). And with Skylake around the corner, I decided to return it and get a model more suited for portability, touchscreen for convenience. Now 4k is even more mainstream, and I wouldn't have to use an odd 3k screen. They never tell you how unsupported it is. Sure 4k is unsupported, but at least it scales with 1080p appliations well, nearly all applications are unoptimized for 3k.

I'm really interested in those 15.6 inch models (that Asus would be perfect for anything if it had a 970m/980m), but I know I'll have the same issue, I'd rather have a laptop the size of a tablet. I could live with a 15 inch if it was my desktop replacement, but I have a desktop already. I want a laptop or 2-in-1 to take everywhere with me, or use it comfortably in bed or etc.

The kicker is I don't wanna give up speed. Of course even a 960m will be much slower than the 970m in my last laptop, and I can't even find any reasonably priced 13 inch laptops with 960m's in them, especially not touchscreen 4k ones.

You hear any new laptop news, any recommendations? It's been a month, and it would make college a lot easier if I didn't have to use my phone for the internet everywhere, but I know only half of companies have their laptops out right now.

What I'm asking for is essentially a Razer Blade that's full 4k touchscreen... but ISN'T made by Razer tongue.gif (as I type on my Razer Chroma... man I'm a hypocrite, I want need a cherry MX RGB board that's not corsair's)
Edited by jkteddy77 - 10/24/15 at 12:46am
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post #4 of 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by jkteddy77 View Post

Well, so a little more backstory.
Got this for college: http://amzn.to/204bCRq

and while it was awesome, it got 95C in any games, though it could run Battlefield 4 on high settings in full 3k at 60+ fps. was just using my desktop so much more, it didn't do anything for me, I couldn't justify a $1800 laptop I only used 2 hours a day and lugged a mile across campus. Even though it was slim and light as can be, it was SUCH a pain to take around with me (Just the sheer area it took up, it was plenty thin and light). And with Skylake around the corner, I decided to return it and get a model more suited for portability, touchscreen for convenience. Now 4k is even more mainstream, and I wouldn't have to use an odd 3k screen. They never tell you how unsupported it is. Sure 4k is unsupported, but at least it scales with 1080p appliations well, nearly all applications are unoptimized for 3k.

I'm really interested in those 15.6 inch models (that Asus would be perfect for anything if it had a 970m/980m), but I know I'll have the same issue, I'd rather have a laptop the size of a tablet. I could live with a 15 inch if it was my desktop replacement, but I have a desktop already. I want a laptop or 2-in-1 to take everywhere with me, or use it comfortably in bed or etc.

The kicker is I don't wanna give up speed. Of course even a 960m will be much slower than the 970m in my last laptop, and I can't even find any reasonably priced 13 inch laptops with 960m's in them, especially not touchscreen 4k ones.

You hear any new laptop news, any recommendations? It's been a month, and it would make college a lot easier if I didn't have to use my phone for the internet everywhere, but I know only half of companies have their laptops out right now.

What I'm asking for is essentially a Razer Blade that's full 4k touchscreen... but ISN'T made by Razer tongue.gif (as I type on my Razer Chroma... man I'm a hypocrite, I want need a cherry MX RGB board that's not corsair's)

Like I said, could you wait for Black Friday which it is right around the corner.
If you do, then you could snag a really good gaming laptop.
     
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CM Storm Enforcer Logitech G700s Logitech Soft Cloth Mouse pad Sennheiser HD 558 
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