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More than that, I've never seen a receiver that didn't have half the inputs randomly die.

If I wanted to keep every console hooked up I would need (NES, SNES, N64, GameCube, Wii, Wii-U, X-box, 360, Xbone, PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4, Dreamcast, plus satellite) a receiver with up to 10 RCA inputs, maybe two or three VGA (I used that for the 360 and Dreamcast) and half a dozen HDMI, and even if you do get HDMI 2.0 it's going to be obsolete before 2020 because we're certainly not done expanding AV capabilities (and HDMI sucks).
Legacy software libraries are absolutely the way to go.


Stop buying cheap receivers.


Buy a Yamaha and be done with it. They build their equipment like tanks.


Brands like Onkyo, Pioneer, and Sony on the other hand have had serious problems with their equipment failing over time.


Also pretty much modern high end receiver will upscale old inputs to 1080p. (Or 4K on newer models)


Receiver's will go out of date at some point in time, as long as new tech keep coming out. But nothing wrong with using the same one for 5-10 years.



Anything 480p and below will look like crap on a modern LCD anyways, upscaling will be needed.
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Stop buying cheap receivers.


Buy a Yamaha and be done with it. They build their equipment like tanks.


Brands like Onkyo, Pioneer, and Sony on the other hand have had serious problems with their equipment failing over time.


Also pretty much modern high end receiver will upscale old inputs to 1080p. (Or 4K on newer models)


Receiver's will go out of date at some point in time, as long as new tech keep coming out. But nothing wrong with using the same one for 5-10 years.



Anything 480p and below will look like crap on a modern LCD anyways, upscaling will be needed.

I have no complaints with mine so far but I've only had it for about a year. Good thing I bought the cheapest model so if it ever does die, I won't be out too much money.
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Developing a whole new system or even the same base system with a faster SoC will cost more money, a lot more. If they ever to consider this concept, the closest thing they can do is once SoC yields mature to a level where they can up the clock speeds of a SoC and call it an upgrade. Even that will still cost money as they'd have to make a whole new SKU of the console and convince the people to get this new console. This also would place a small burden on the developers as they'd have to test their game on another variant of the system.

This isn't cont effective, I don't see this happening. The only thing they can do is improve the software of the console / API. Doing more beyond that is lunacy in business sense.
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I called this, the reason I think it would work is if they use amd for the next apu then it will have better than backwards compatibility, it might even run older ps4 games better than the ps4 and how hard would it be for devs to have 2 on the fly settings in a game, like high and ultra for each hw.
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I had suspected this 2 years ago. As much as it is still unlikely, It MIGHT happen.


uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

What does he think the chip in the PS4 is, a noodle cup with a bottle of nitrous?

Its a frigging x86 AMD Jaguar APU with GDDR5 ram laid out at 64bit isn't it??
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Has everyone forgotten the Nintendo 64's RAM expansion pack (then again, that might be pre-date a lot of OCN members these days...)? Most games just rendered at a higher resolution with better textures with it installed. Some games (like Perfect Dark) required it for additional features in the game to work.

An upgraded PS4 would work the same way. All games would work fine with the older system, just at reduced performance or fidelity.

I think the choice Sony makes more or less comes down to however much power the NX is packing.
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Has everyone forgotten the Nintendo 64's RAM expansion pack (then again, that might be pre-date a lot of OCN members these days...)? Most games just rendered at a higher resolution with better textures with it installed. Some games (like Perfect Dark) required it for additional features in the game to work.

An upgraded PS4 would work the same way. All games would work fine with the older system, just at reduced performance or fidelity.

I think the choice Sony makes more or less comes down to however much power the NX is packing.

Few people bought it and few games used it. It was also an add-on not this rumored brand new version of a console. Although it wasn't cheap at launch, It's much more palatable to simply purchase an add-on versus purchasing a brand new console.
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Has everyone forgotten the Nintendo 64's RAM expansion pack (then again, that might be pre-date a lot of OCN members these days...)? Most games just rendered at a higher resolution with better textures with it installed. Some games (like Perfect Dark) required it for additional features in the game to work.

An upgraded PS4 would work the same way. All games would work fine with the older system, just at reduced performance or fidelity.

I think the choice Sony makes more or less comes down to however much power the NX is packing.


I still don't consider that a success. Maybe it wasn't an unmitigated disaster like all the others, but it certainly didn't have widespread adoption.
http://www.giantbomb.com/nintendo-64/3045-43/
The best selling game that requires the expansion pack is Majora's Mask at 3.36 million units, I'm betting that's roughly how many expansion packs there are in the wild (which is about 10% of console lifetime sales).
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Wasn't the PS3 initially planned to be upgrade-able? I recall reading (pre release) that the trim, and I thought upgrade hardware were going to be sold in stores (the original 20gb PS3 came with black trim and some other features lowered from the 60gb).
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How about a PS4 with full backwards compatibility.... gimme that, and MAYBE ill buy one... rolleyes.gif
YES and in white but the improved version!
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