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I routinely saw SNES games selling for $65 to $75 at toys r'us back in the day. Today's gamers don't know what they're complaining about when they moan about $60 games.

You mean broken games? None of these games have "Nintendo seal of quality" Instead of spending half of the budged on marketing spend 1/4 of testing the games.
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You mean broken games? None of these games have "Nintendo seal of quality" Instead of spending half of the budged on marketing spend 1/4 of testing the games.

True. Broken and buggy games are definitely not worth $60. If developers/publishers took their time to release perfectly working games with no DLC but they charged the inflation adjusted price of $120 per game, would gamers still buy it? I saw those SNES games go for $65 to $75 back in 1993 to 1995.

I'm not trying to pick a fight, I'm genuinely curious how modern gamers would react to that scenario. As for myself? I actually think I'll take the buggy messes we have now for $60. I just can't stomach paying $120 for a single video game.
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True. Broken and buggy games are definitely not worth $60. If developers/publishers took their time to release perfectly working games with no DLC but they charged the inflation adjusted price of $120 per game, would gamers still buy it? I saw those SNES games go for $65 to $75 back in 1993 to 1995.

I'm not trying to pick a fight, I'm genuinely curious how modern gamers would react to that scenario. As for myself? I actually think I'll take the buggy messes we have now for $60. I just can't stomach paying $120 for a single video game.

You also have to remember what while games where that expansive back then the gaming industry is much different. Gaming is bigger then its used to be back then so $60 games get sold to a lot more people. PCs back then used to cost 2K+ so with inflation a decent PC should cost 3K+ now but it does not.
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You also have to remember what while games where that expansive back then the gaming industry is much different. Gaming is bigger then its used to be back then so $60 games get sold to a lot more people. PCs back then used to cost 2K+ so with inflation a decent PC should cost 3K+ now but it does not.

I agree that gaming is definitely bigger than in the past. There are many more customers available to make money off of now. I'm pretty sure, however, that the costs of developing a game are also at record highs. I don't have any objective data supporting my opinions but I believe that developers today may not be making as much actual profit as they were in the past. With the pressure from publishers to pump out games faster but being unable to charge more for games, this could be the reason why DLC and pre-orders were invented. This doesn't excuse them for releasing non-working bug fests but it might explain why it's happening.

In regards to the cost of computers, I believe hardware usually goes down in costs because parts become cheaper and production methods greatly improve. TVs are cheaper now than when they were first invented in the 60s, landline phones are like $15 now vs. the hundreds they probably paid back in the early 1900s, etc.... I don't think it's valid to compare the costs of hardware vs. the costs of software.
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I agree that gaming is definitely bigger than in the past. There are many more customers available to make money off of now. I'm pretty sure, however, that the costs of developing a game are also at record highs. I don't have any objective data supporting my opinions but I believe that developers today may not be making as much actual profit as they were in the past. With the pressure from publishers to pump out games faster but being unable to charge more for games, this could be the reason why DLC and pre-orders were invented. This doesn't excuse them for releasing non-working bug fests but it might explain why it's happening.

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Yeas games cost more to make and part of it is stupid marketing. It's a lot more expensive to take a game ad make it in 2 years with 200 people then 5 years with 80 people. You will get a much better game working 4-5 years but they want to push out games really fast. Look at movies. They cost a lot more to make but so much more people are now going to watch them hence they are making a lot of money. Personally I only care for games that have long development like GTA, Witcher, Fallout, ES etc. Games that come withing 1-2 years I dont even bother.
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If they are serious about pushing VR, I can see it happening. All non-VR games will run on both consoles, but VR games will only run in VR mode on the PS4K.
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They should release along side the ps4, this upgraded model but also include a SSD and backward's compatibility if possible. We don't mind any premiums, long live to the Sony company wink.gif
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The PSVR comes with additional hardware, maybe the improved performance is just this unit and the PS4 in one box?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=183775025&postcount=1


I'd buy it!
 
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The PSVR comes with additional hardware, maybe the improved performance is just this unit and the PS4 in one box?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=183775025&postcount=1


I'd buy it!

Yep came across this few daya ago. Seems like ps4 is not poweful for vr argument goes out of the window.
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