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Is there any way to test the power supply? Because I think my temps are fine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac7YMUcMjbw

Although, if your PSU works, but has trouble only at full load, it's more complicated to find out. You should try the molex thing he shows, while the PC is under stress (skip the paper clip, you need to measure the molex, while the rest of PC is under load).

If your 12V line is low in the molex, probably the PSU can't cope with the required wattage. There are also automatic PSU testers, but at least the one i have, doesn't allow to measure while at full load, because it requirs the 24 and 8 pin to be connected to the PSU tester. So you need manually to check the molex with multimeter.
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post #12 of 34
There is no way your temps are that low on a 212.
Temps sensor on AMD is only accurate over 40c.
You should be idling in the 30c +/- 5c range. Under 100% load you should be seeing temps in the 50c range....if not more.
Your shutdowns are heat related.
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You could try stressing with OCCT. It also shows temps, volts and memory usage while stressing.
It also saves graphs of everything so that you can view what happened after the test (unless the computer lock up or BSODs).

I think you will find that heat is your issue.
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So basically the problem is with running FL studio? I've had the same problem and switching to asio4all driver in FL studio solved it. I have an FX8320@4.6Ghz, everything worked fine when it was running @4.2GHz.
Here is the guide.

If you already did this and still experience performance issues, then overclocking might help but I wouldn't expect miracles.
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I've been running Windows for about 3 and a half hours now on 4.5 ghz. I've been making music just fine, no crashes, no BSOD, not even a simple Windows error.
That's not likely close to Prime stability, LinX stability, or RealBench stability.

If you don't want to run Prime because people have said it's questionable then do this:

Run 5 runs of RealBench

Chances are you will have a problem, especially during the handbrake encoding part. That is a real-world test so it's something you could conceivably run into. Also, keep in mind that gaming can raise case temperature, due to GPU heat input into the air, and destabilize an overclock.

I am not an overclocking expert but I think Prime is stable if you truly have heat under control. VRM temps, on my board, love to keep climbing and eventually will cause an error. This is if I don't have aggressive cooling blowing onto the sink. The thermal pad on the sink is hardly ideal and even though the board is thought of as having 8 phases it's really 4 phases with a doubler, as far as I know, which is not as good as a true 8 phase board. At least this board has a digital VRM system, though.
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the newest version of prime95 does work well with vishera
 
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post #17 of 34
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Op, I'd say you need more psu then what you have. What I'm interested in knowing is what brand and model of motherboard you have

Take a look at the title of my thread. I have an ASUS Sabertooth 990 FX R.2
post #18 of 34
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Originally Posted by Mr.Scott View Post

There is no way your temps are that low on a 212.
Temps sensor on AMD is only accurate over 40c.
You should be idling in the 30c +/- 5c range. Under 100% load you should be seeing temps in the 50c range....if not more.
Your shutdowns are heat related.
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You could try stressing with OCCT. It also shows temps, volts and memory usage while stressing.
It also saves graphs of everything so that you can view what happened after the test (unless the computer lock up or BSODs).

I think you will find that heat is your issue.

I will test with with OCCT and report back with my findings.
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So basically the problem is with running FL studio? I've had the same problem and switching to asio4all driver in FL studio solved it. I have an FX8320@4.6Ghz, everything worked fine when it was running @4.2GHz.
Here is the guide.

If you already did this and still experience performance issues, then overclocking might help but I wouldn't expect miracles.

Well, since the overclock wasn't P95 stable I manged to find a work around my CPU issue. I've already been using ASIO4ALL, but thanks for suggesting it to me. I am an experienced FL user so I know all about it. What I manged doing was enabling Smart Disable for every synth in my playlist and effect in the mixer minus the reverb or delays (Smart Disable will disable them prematurely and affect reverb/echo tail). I manged to drop my CPU load by 30% and now it idles around 5% CPU load, unlike the previous idling at 25-30%.
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Well, I indeed found out that it was a temp issue. Thank you billbartuska for recommending OCCT. The test started slowly and gradually put pressure on my CPU so I was able to monitor my temps before the PC shut down. Open Hardware Monitor is flawed because at idle it was showing 15 degrees and 30 at max. OCCT showed 35 at idle for 4.5 Ghz. When I started the test the CPU load went up to 100% and I saw my temps climbing slowly. It got up to 59 degrees and then the PC shut down..

I think in terms my DAW, Fl studio, the PC allocates a certain portion of the CPU to the program and when FL maxes out that allocation it reads 100% load, but it's not a true representation. Maybe I am wrong?

Also, P95 seems to instantaneously jump from one end of the spectrum to the other so it just shuts down instantaneously.

What would you guys recommend I try doing right now? I want to get the max out of my system and set up right now.

And one final question from this post.. what is the max temp that a PC will usually shut down on? Is it 60 degrees Celsius or higher? Because I read somewhere that you could go to 70 degrees max?
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